Transcript MFW 060 | Dr. Elroy Vojdani

Dr. Elroy Podcast

[1:06] The best way to have a healthy family is by living a Family Wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for efficient effective.

Then I strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable because we have an amazing show for you today dr. elroy's Johnny is the founder of regeneron medical a boutique functional medicine practice in Los Angeles California.

And a certified bredesen recode practitioner

well welcome families to the interview portion of today's podcast I have with me today doctor Elroy Voyage Johnny welcome to the podcast Doc it's so great to have you.

It's great to be here Kyle appreciate it.

[2:06] I just want to thank you so much for coming on the platform here doc I had the honor and the privilege of meeting you back in Denver just last week

people out there that are just struggling.

Hundred lbs and chronic disease that are just looking for answers were a lot of functional medicine and even the owl pathak model has come up short for them so

I want to thank you for your time this afternoon as we always start with with every guest that we have on the podcast dear.

[2:43] Can you briefly tell us what family looks like for you.

Thank you very much for thing at home that I think you carry with you wherever you go.

[3:08] Absolutely.

The healthy baby healthy mother there that's

I have not had the honor of visiting Michigan but my brother-in-law who I'm very close with is a freshman at the University of Michigan just started.

[3:34] He just came home yesterday for fall break so I'm catching up on all his wonderful times and Mission

brilliant that's great to hear I'm we're always I mean right now with the fall definitely go Blue cheering for Michigan there and I hear great things about the university with their medical programs and all of their academic achievements there as well so

with your functional medicine clinic out and.

California there on the clinical side applying these things that you're doing with the research and actually changing people's lives to elevate their health and

on this lifestyle specifically i wanted to go into a talking the in test no permian below the and our current understanding of wiki got because i think there's.

Again you've talked about this on your YouTube channel with a wrist of what is Johnny PhD.

[4:33] And.

Oftentimes there can be confusion or miscommunication about mechanisms or even new research comes out and we have new understandings so.

[4:52] No for some during degree or another that we have these multiple barriers within our body right so we have six primary barriers if you will

one being the skin are first barrier with the environments are lungs you can have a leaky lung context our lungs have a barrier,

obviously the intestinal barrier which I think is most widely known but then we also have a good vascular barrier a blood-brain barrier which is had a lot of attention around it recently

and also onion barrier so if we could dive into a discussion of the inch has no barrier and i know it may a branch off from there i think they'll give people a great start.

In terms of California contacts for our discussion.

And listening to your talk back in Denver what I heard you say if pregnant if I'm wrong but it's almost as if our intestinal epithelium or those cells that kind of makeup are gut lining.

[5:55] There's some component of our body sometimes wants to have that be

i was a most the time it wants to be a good nice tight junction that's closed off does that sound correct.

Or how does that concept totally correct and so what we were talking about in the lecture was.

[6:29] Kind of completely reverse our understanding of and has some pretty billy

we used to think 20 or 25 years ago and I even mentioned in the lecture that it when I went to med school what we were taught was

that the interface between the inside of our God and our blood.

And then that is basically you know absolute and that the spaces in between those cells which are the paracellular spaces and where tight junctions live.

And dr. Fasano's work was going on actually the same time that I was learning that in medical school.

And he basically flipped the upside down he said you know this is incorrect.

We have a mechanism to open these.

[7:28] Spaces in between these barriers elsener got end.

Or open and close these tight junctions to be able to sample,

what's inside of our gut and that's in the spirit of maintaining something called.

Oral tolerance or peripheral tolerance.

[7:53] Which is our ability to say this is Friend or Foe basically.

[7:59] Self or non-self exactly did you ever watch the movie The Matrix dock.

Of course.

Turn off above the door where Neal walks in when he visits the shaman I forget what her name is.

And so I just think of that when I reflect upon this concept of autoimmune ology or having your immune system recognize what is Friend or Foe essentially that Thursday.

Absolutely can you expand upon this idea of oral tolerance and maybe tie this into the alcat test because that's an understanding that I'm trying to format.

[8:37] Understand as well and have that be shape because I think a lot of people have heard of the alcat test or they've had the testing done and they may feel better for an initial period of time.

What's the long-term plan.

[9:02] You know beginning at about 3 months of age or our body starts forming immune cells within our bone marrow.

And we start creating something called Central tolerance which is this really vital part of being able to exist.

Which is training the cells of our mean system to understand what is our tissue and what is not our tissue.

And that of course occurs in that i am missing you know goes a couple of years two or three years right essential tolerance.

The idea that our tissue is our own and make sure that our immune system never attacks.

[9:38] Expanded concept is something called peripheral tolerance which is.

Where you're still trying to maintain the idea of cell vs non self white be flexible in.

Peripheral tolerance occurs primarily in the gut.

[9:59] And this is a dynamic and ever-flowing process as we are exposed to different things in our environment and end that

that's where tight junctions become incredibly important functions to work appropriately you need to be able to turn them on and open them in unregulated fashions in the correct situation.

In order to expose your immune system which is centered within the guy to the right amount of antigens at the right time so it knows which which one's the fight and which ones did not

now we don't want to suddenly start developing reactions for example is something very common like gluten Nord sub peptides,

you know this is not what I mean system is designed to do it's doing this by accident and it's happening it's happening through dysregulation of Grifols.

[11:09] Those of us in the book Valley School of thought.

And along time ago we now have testing was coming up.

Be one of the immunologist on staff to validate alcat test,

what the fuck.

Changes in character size composition of the lymphocytes in there for terminating service immune reactivity to.


[12:00] He wasn't able to.

Areas of research for us is actually validating ways that we do do some testing which I think is something that everyone who is practicing in this base needs to be aware of is.

You know how reliable how accurate how reproduce or the test we do.

And what can i answer the case so i'm personally not a huge fan at all can i know that there are lots of people out there it use it and they do use it successfully and is a very common story.

[12:48] Choose your and what you just mentioned that people respond positively initially read foods that are mentions.

[13:01] Initial symptoms symptom relief will not propagate for very long periods of time or maybe I think more importantly.

In the question is why.

I think that goes.

When you look at I think how inflammation is centered in the small intestine in the setting of intestinal permeability you know that the propagation of inflammation and potentially antibodies to some of those

I think that antibody testing gives you much more important clinical information.

And you probably want to look at more than just IGG a lot of people are looking at.

Yeah I think this is a great discussion here. I really appreciate you bringing the value here because as a chiropractor I primarily work with musculoskeletal cases.

That gives us a level of trust in the foundation to move forward into these new avenues that.

[14:18] Chiropractors actually have a great access to especially when a lot of.

Gives us a great Segway into.

Give us an understanding of this selective for me ability because.

[15:00] The intestinal epithelium to let something through right or is that really not been proven yet or is it always a bad thing to have permeability.

For the paracellular space so they're they're basically opening a gate.

Or things to enter directly into the bloodstream and therefore into the game system there's absolutely a physiologic function.

Dysbiosis done in balance of bacteria there many chemicals alcohol common medications like Advil common pesticides like Roundup.

[16:09] Set up.

[16:19] Some cases actually tight junctions can be fixed in the open position so your stock.

Consistent opening of the tight junctions and you can imagine where if there's a function normally there opening and closing in a very short period of time if they're stuck open

your new system is empty flooded with crowns proteins and so is it when we learn why is

on the end of illegal surface we open our page options.

And you're mean system is basically being flooded with a bunch of.

[17:13] Do we know you mentioned those environmental stressors you meant,

question Kyle very great question the only two things that have been proven in the literature to actually resulted in upregulation of Zombieland are

gluten peptides and dysbiosis and I think part of dysbiosis

you have to start talking about bacterial toxins whether they're LPS or something I didn't talk about the lecture another very important bacterial toxin is bacterial cycle equal to spending dachshund.

[17:54] Which is part of a very common infectious agents that cause acute GI distress but.

Primarily alterations of,

intestinal permeability via other methods of testing not actually looking at zonulin release but when you

I think when you look at the mechanisms it's all going to pan out zonulin is such a master signaling molecule.

We have this up regulation of zonulin from our environment from our contacts whether it be dysbiosis.


So then we have the opening of the Junctions.

[19:06] Take it from there so the kids are open right.

You know basically your immune system is inside the Fortress it's job is to defend.

[19:30] Several lines of soldiers that are sitting just just past the gate waiting for these enemies and their job is to.

Right so this first line of Defenders is our innate immune system right are non-specific immune defense.

[20:02] Natural killer T cells these are all things that are sitting there waiting for this on Rush a CD on Rush happening.

They get upset and they just start releasing the bunch of pro-inflammatory cytokines are chemicals that are,


localized inflammatory response right

inflammatory response

shortly thereafter going to get some redness and and not Implement inflammatory response is very similar to what's happening inside you've got on this happens right

now what happens if this.

[21:27] What you can think of is maybe the Navy Seals inside the Fortress.

We need help us deal with all this complexity of Invaders and those Navy Seals are adaptive immune system

autoinflammatory and autoimmune diseases even outside of the right so,

the Invaders are rushing through the Adaptive immune cells make their way.

You can just open it open the gate real quick take a peek at who's across the line.

Close the gate in your body inside Fortress is totally fine in this situation.

[22:54] Be enemies have made their way through and that second line of defense is decided okay you know we need to,

toupees here and that's where you can actually make antibodies against food particles because of that this regulation.

And then that's where a lot of the antibody testing would come into play.

[23:12] Is that right so you're basically testing when you're looking for antibodies

I know I'm a little bit passionate about this stuff so.

Need that whole localised inflammatory response to go away.

[23:56] Enemy that they were recruited to fight against for example let's use something different let's say the casing for example I have protein in milk or whey let's say Jason keeps on rushing and they're not going to go anywhere

M10 the entire environment or response.

[24:42] And then based on what you just outline.

Ideally than that everything should start to seal however sometimes.

To her stress levels due to all the other environmental factors i think sometimes that healing doesn't mr lee take.

Inflammatory bowel disease or Crohn's disease rheumatoid arthritis so we have we had this great new understanding.

A lot of these pathological disease processes that are now being spine with differ mechanisms.

And I feel like we're able to provide new tools and better treatments for these patients.

Absolutely yeah this was the remarkable breakthrough I think of dr. Fasano's work.

[25:47] Central feature for the development of autoimmune diseases and we're also finding many connections to.

As well we used to just say.

[26:16] Happened a black box know you have interviewed sorry yeah now i actually we're understanding that.

[27:03] They found a much higher amount of sanyo wind-up regulation patients with type one diabetes adults patients

and patients who don't have type 1 diabetes so something else is going on here and it's actually centered within the intestinal I think one of the Great Hopes here is first of all our understanding of the Adaptive physiology has grown

brick trade of time that I've been in practice I'm sure you have a much better perspective on this.

[28:12] Yeah then outline why that's better than the serum cuz I know that's part of your.

By using sugar molecules and testing the amount of them in urine and basically saying if there's more to this than that and you have some.

Issues with your ability and research white that's like completely clean.

Right there are a lot of things that can change your intestinal absorption of a sugar molecule that have nothing to do with this zonulin pathway

or have nothing to do with your immune system so Johnny land became the focus.

Dysregulation of your immune system means potentially autoimmune disease if you're not.

[29:26] All the clinical research that was being done was being done using serum is on also this.

Signaling molecule is released into God and then.

Makes its way into the bloodstream and therefore you're drawing their blood and you can look at the amount of Zombieland.

It is significantly elevated to the point that you can make a conclusion that this regulation of xylem plays a role in this disease but.

[30:00] Sure you can draw the conclusion that type 1 diabetes is correlated with an increase in Zombieland based on serum levels

okay you look at the celiac disease patients when you look and see rims on eiland levels you get like 40% of patients with celiac disease that's an autoimmune disease that is centered in the gut almost all of those patients should have a positive.

Intestinal permeability test.

A Clinical Laboratory diagnostic tool and even doctors opponent bassano in their own research said

didn't stop many lives from using it as a new clinical diagnostic test which is worse terms anion levels became.

A tool in the functional integrative squirrel.

So basically.

[31:09] You have the designers of these experiments saying you probably shouldn't use it but live saying whatever.

[31:27] It's a big molecule right we knew based on other research that looked at Big molecules that,

when you want to look at the stability of those big mouth.

No way that you can think about using testing for these things and reliable and that's because.

[31:47] Okay.

Arthropathy reactive arthritis Ankylosing Spondylitis so it's involved in a lot of very important diseases but for a long time we've known,

you should be looking for the antibodies to LPS because.

[32:37] The LPS that it was attacking is going to disappear.

[32:41] In a very short period top two to four minutes for help that's so.

[32:45] What if you looked at the actual.

Which indirectly tells you that LPS has been present at consistent levels or at least the last four to six.

[33:26] And what is available as a Laboratory test and we said let's compare those two antibodies,

excluding Clawdeen with your other proteins in the tight junctions and we looked at something called Leo February acidic protein which is.

[33:44] Becoming a very big part of the vascular permeability discussion that is the new.

[33:49] Hear a thing about especially when you look is it levels vs antibiotics on your levels the antibodies were elevated much more

33% of the patients with celiac disease in our study had serum Zombieland elevations 67% double the amount had antibody elevation so when you talking about a clinical tool

this one looks based on the data to be much more reliable reproducible stable over time

get those numbers back in the NBA publish those results absolutely

any sort of connection to the vagus nerve are parasympathetic nervous system.

[35:16] We're talking about tight junctions but I'm going to briefly wrap this up so.

[35:22] How to take functions are not the only important structure in that's case or repair cellular gap in between yep feel yourself there's also another thing how do you your instruction.

Filial cells to sit next to each other and work happily.

There's a set of bacterial toxins called satelital distending toxins which actually directly attack.

And this is work from dr. Pimentel at Cedar-Sinai.

[36:03] Body will form a antibody to it.

Is protein in your ad here instruction and also cross-react with your enteric nervous system,

the appearance Junctions throughout your entire intestinal system so this is your method of


stop dating a migrating Motor complex which is signal through your vagus nerve tear and tear nervous system.

You are breaking apart the connection network and then you are also directly attacking the nurse.

[37:01] Explosives and amount is of type junction are very often.

You got intestinal permeability and you also get direct damage to the interior of nervous system.

And we're finding out that a very large portion.

Actually have both of these.

[37:41] I'm is basically a large portion of the majority of patients with IBS subtype d.

Will have abnormalities related to antibodies attacking.

Enter nervous system and also significant.

Portion of those with constipation subtype so.

[38:05] You're finding out that damage the entire nervous system is autoimmune in nature which is really really really fast.

Wow that just blows my mind I've never heard that articulated that eloquently I've never even heard of that mechanism is that unlike a molecular mimicry

evolutionarily beneficial to those bacteria to develop toxins that mimics our own structures.

It's one thing for toxins to do their job in To Kill a cell

it's another for them to propagate in any response that.

And it just turns out to destroy your jerk nervous system.

[38:57] So

[38:59] Would a good practical application be going back to all of our functional neurology vagus nerve exercises so are humming gargling or gag reflex.

Absolutely that's what you have to do and at the same time also focus on restoring oral or peripheral tolerance getting your body to stop producing.

Antibodies to is toxin in there for your own tissues.

So yes yes and I want people to know who we're listening that dr. elroy's Johnny is out there in California at regeneron Medical is that correct

that's correct yes yes so if you need a functional medicine testing doc use out there in california if you're locally here at the michigan family wellness community context,

of course we have the ability to do a lot of these tests as well cyrex is the.

[40:07] Basically what we're talking about what we're looking at with a lot of these antibody test I believe it's array 14 is that right.

Absolutely again briefly back as we conclude our talk for today I think we're still going here with our recording.

Basically can you take us through perhaps that right side of that voice Johnny V because I believe you guys have some great practical application,

some of this testing is not the most accessible for a lot of people.

Eight more got center the me having your of generation one so i'll talk to the basics of god centered wide and also a little bit of.

So basically got centered line as we call it a through think so.

[41:17] Obviously remove the things that are causing inflammation in your.

[41:34] Right and then you have to send positive signals to the immune system right you have to send.

To our friends the t regulatory cells which are responsible for whether we have this item one time before a i don't you think going on you have to send them happy sick so.

At large doses of vitamin a i like of the ten thousand units for shorter the time.

Large doses of Vitamin D based on your testing you know that's a pretty easy test again but anywhere from 5 to 10,000.

I'm a big fan of glutathione using very often you know.

[42:19] Master antioxidant obviously helping you cope with this and planned for it battle heels blood brain barrier is really pushes a pack detox so i use it very often.

Yeah the switch on and on and on the neuro degeneration world there dirt very very similar you add a few things that are different.

[43:08] Yeah so when treating patients with intestinal permeability I use serum bovine immunoglobulin e.

Everyday many times today it is expensive but I think it's really effective the literature is really showing.

I think that what we experience in clinical practice using this is panning out.

It's basically an oral version i big basically just taking holding european helping your immune system.

Clean out this biotic organisms healed.

You don't prove any issues you might have with biofilms I think it's a really powerful tool thanks so much.

Briefly what are you do you like to dose those immunoglobulins pretty high.

I've been dosing two and a half grams two times a day for anywhere from three to six months.

[44:07] So that's basically two scoops of the SBI protect from working like there and I do like I was using a prescription version.

Before this was available and it does have dextrose from GMO corn,

and if your location is balance the both of my not so low that so that's why i switched up or some like.

[44:54] Love and support all these is there practicing.

In this field a functional medicine we absolutely need you the community as a whole I think would not be where we are without.

DC's being so forward thinking about employing functional medicine and thinking about their entire patient.

I think for there you go is books wearing a battle I think is as a community or practitioners

what we feel is the correct way to look at the literature and treat patients and there is a lot of blowback from other sides.

So we're all part of the same team we all support each other.

My thought with that doctors that we can do far more together and then we could ever do a.

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Transcript MFW 035 | Debbie Diehr

[1:12] Fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family.

Then I strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable,

because we have an amazing show for you today Therapy Program at Schoolcraft College,

through her soft tissue techniques and raindrop therapy Debbie believes a Life well-lived Begin by living well she helps her clients in their journey to become healthier happier and more relaxed.

[1:45] Eight families let's jump into today's interview welcome family for the interview portion of today's podcast might yes on the show.

Thank you so much for having me

f it and value of a central or

for elevating your house.

Which brings up a great point.


question that we always ask our guest here on the podcast debbie i'm just holder families a little bit about you as the professional

but one of the core values.

[2:55] Family for being looks like.

On my for daughter is have given me seven beautiful grandchildren and we want.

Eight one on the way i have.

So can i mean don't like me that's have to get yeah i'm just kinda thinking ahead in terms of the conversation that we're gonna have on rain drop therapy here i can get

you know debbie another thing i love to stay here on the michigan family run the catch is that we are.

Smitten with the Mitten so I always ask my guest to share what they love about Michigan.

[3:42] Oh my gosh Michigan is is is awesome I love Michigan just.

The beauty of it

the but michigan it,

what more can you run across but in the back top rear engine.

I'm telling you there's so many things,

porcupine mountains i mean just everything i would think of anybody come to michigan and he the real michigan i'm fantastic yeah we could definitely be here all day,

talking about,

I really want the,

value from York.

[4:55] Not right away when someone here is raindrop therapy they may be a little

typically when someone says later on

back forms of Alternative Health Care,

I hear my wife witty remarks in my head in a raindrop therapy.

Raindrop therapy.

Go ahead and talk.

[5:45] Cat oh what the rain drop therapy it of it you on the touch technique used along fine and the bottom of the feet,

with nine different essential oils and the essential oils.

Therapeutic grade essential oils you can't just use any oil out there.

[6:11] You don't know exactly what's in them.

You can ingest,

he am and what the rain drop treatment daughter is.

The reason why I called the patient is lying on their belly.

[6:43] That's how i got a nickname grain got there he but there's nine different oils that would you.

[6:57] We work on it in a great way.

[7:01] So i got what i'm gonna start with you up.

It's based on the theory that many types of spinal.

Pathogens create on information what can contort and figure file cow on.

On have jug for their sign it in order to get that out.

Junk your sign on with the oil that you are the wraith electrical energy in the body of the frequency.

Provide the ability to bail on the central nervous system.

[8:00] The third reich dormant viruses fungus what you been trapped in the spinal cord checked in the hotel check-in

we want to get all that stuff out.

On an amat disposal but petrochemicals and how long.

Door in your cash when bloodstream drop your whole body and three to twenty wouldn't three fucking to twenty minute while.

[8:46] Yeah so many great

things are when i just wanna go back and you know just kinda summarize what your saying you're so and again,

no stress on the spine in that position in the gravity is just going through those spinal discs perfectly.

Greatest angel oils and dumping the entire bottle and rubbing it in again for like quote at the it that rain drop technique innocent of your acidic we dropping the oils.

The spine on to this can maybe doing a light gentle massage to help work,

those biochemistry that biochemistry into the scan and the spine to like you said.

Remove those toxins help with intoxication.

Formation this time because truly are spine is one of the first,

I agree 100%.

Massage technique used so.

[10:09] It's it's a massage but yet it's not.

[10:38] Rain drop their guy but you're also just getting that natural diffusion so we talked about how there's so many different ways.

To experience,

through the olfactory nerve.

They're getting the brain benefits of just inhaling that good plan chemistry that makes sense that.

Apple because i gotta tell you when when are you a rain drop tripping i'm on vacation because i'm smelling it and in a good working in my hand on it like i could.

Before they arrive.

I leave my room feeling like I can take on the world.

So whenever your rain trout creek bed it benefiting the patient is,

absolutely I couldn't agree more I mean I've done a little bit of rain.

[11:48] With myself actually.


and we were able to

1 for 20 minutes well it doesn't necessarily work that way you have to do it,


episode 32 but there is actual,


But you just mention they did research on,

raindrop treatment for people with scoliosis and they showed that the scoliosis improved.

[13:16] On fruit cow nine not ninety nine.

She will just have straightened.

[13:29] Actually a blend of several oils.

Yep it has the power to,

fine i'll get people think it kinda crazy and don't.

[13:45] Believe it but you really need to be open-minded

feed the difference again that goes back to a point i made earlier knowledge is power but the real life change happens when you actually a,

why the application of that knowledge brings about significant health changes and again there's lots of stuff out there to dark.

Rooted in urology and I can chiropractic

these are great alternatives to help you,

at the dinner

tuberculosis worried about

kids focusing in school and just preventing from preventing them from getting illnesses and helping them recover faster from injury to not or thank.

Overall it should oil just to let you know what each of them do you and all together on nine of them

play with all of the benefits of the each single one on get it wow i'm.

[15:07] I'll just give you a couple of examples of.

Really bad terrible allergies

and he was on your medication from the doctor.

And he has not used

kids prescription medication in 3 years.

So if you can,

take a raindrop treatment to him and.

[15:53] During your treatment please give me a call in your order your queue and your doing and on the guy called me but you know daddy i see.

To work the next day and i could actually bank.

I mean my mind was like unplugged and I felt so much better so he.


There with the body's ability.

[16:34] Exactly.

[16:41] Oils that are involved in the

beat you on a helicopter winter green,

winter green is why all the beautiful to my heart because are the reason i got into it will the first place.

[16:58] I went to a health Expo and there was a person with with the oils.

The problem going on in a women there to michael that really eq right now,

tell me how you feel.

[17:23] How you might helpful really really boring damn thing,

and within 20 minutes my pain was gone for like 4 days.

Where is the meeting that that what got me.

Methyl salicylate.

Our eden reading information in a prison where love in thanks three in your factory from hyper,

make it help you maintain an open mind and clarity far.

[18:23] On it he got mad at properties go directly into the nerve center to help create relaxation.

[18:38] And it strengthens your feelings of security and it clears out.

[18:47] It's relaxing and calming to the nerves it War.


[18:55] Peppermint reduces inflammation at 8:50 Joseph system.

[19:00] The respiratory system.

Increase of mental accuracy.

He's on at the University of Cincinnati.

[19:15] And on 28.

[19:18] A hundred precent of the students in increased.

Accuracy by twenty at least twenty per front.

All of you yeah you and then tine support thing you can i check bacteria fungus.

Action overcome the key growing from the pressure of the art not only help you physically help you mentally.

Like I told you is the car packed.

It balances the electrical energies in her body and creates an environment where structural alignment can occur.

On it very empowering and it took hold memory on our cell.

[20:00] And then roma he's really can't can in my hold,

sports injuries fatigue headaches.

Why is it that cute the bottom of your feet on the bottom the party at them the most with dr on.

[20:34] I want to put it it represents a sign so even when I'm doing the oil.


outstanding so just to summarize we got winter green cypress bay go oregano marjoram peppermint

i'm valor and a roman shade and again dev you know i love my wife so much but i have her with you boys to my head again it just sounds labor about be combined and put in the crock

quite understand

properties of the oil

with electromagnetism not really understand.

If you're just looking for ways to prevent illness and recover from injury to improve your concentration.

[22:02] Edgar went from pain just elevating at me ones which is what we're all about here on the podcast so

the the purpose of the michigan family wellness podcast is to be an audio library resource for the women mothers and families who want to learn more about elevating their family wellness and increasing their resiliency or that shrank to adapt to the stress and the challenges in their life

one of the ways we accomplish this is by asking Our Guest for practical application

set up.

[22:46] I believe that if they start

on a tremendously from using lavender.

Clean out the junk your spine called and the funk.

[23:18] Used essential oil

with that there you know with using me


knows how to use them in the proper way in the proper context because like,

i saw that.



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here and laughing and he it hr.

[24:42] I am located in what plan and on it.

[24:48] Talk to be set it at like your lame in one of.

Can you bring up a great point there to Debbie I do want to direct people to Michigan

highly recommended for the neuro emotional reflexes the psychosomatic emotional health

so chicks with william and then episode thirty two where we talk more about the.

Angel oils thanks again debbie and if you're listening to this podcast and this message is resonating with you.

[25:32] I want to encourage you to head on over to Michigan family

Debbie thank you so much for coming on the podcast thank you so much for helping me

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Transcript MFW 034 | Melinda

[1:08] Family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family,

then I strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable,

because we have an amazing show for you today as a health and wellness consultant Melinda helps people live their healthiest life through safer skincare and eating a healthier Whole Foods diet her client experience cleaner pressure skin

with fewer lines and wrinkles as well as increase energy better digestion and increase overall health including weight loss and better immunity.

Alright families let's jump.

[1:54] Thank you. To Kyle and happy to be here.

Well Melinda it's been a pleasure getting acquainted with you over the past few months I always enjoy meeting new people with different areas of expertise and speciality.

And we actually have a mutual friend who also has been a guest here on the mfw podcast.

So I want to encourage everyone to Circle back and listen to episode with Lauren a day but very excited to jump into today's discussion on how you help women and families Elevate their health.

And wellness that being said we do have

two questions that we always ask our guest here on the podcast Melinda I've just told her family's a little bit about you as the professional but one of the core values on the podcast is family

so tell us more about you as a person and what does family look like for you.

[2:47] Thank you dr. Kyle I love my family I have 5 children three.

Are mine and two step children and the youngest is 18 so I'm an empty-nester.

I never really realize how hard that could be but the oldest is 30 so we have a wonderful family looking forward to.

Our next Adventures hopefully will have grandchildren soon but love it.

[3:12] That's very exciting that upcoming season you know with grandkids and everything and I just really appreciate cuz we do have a lot of mothers a lot of women listening so it's always great to have a mother,

the podcast so that people can make that personal connection another thing I love to stay here on the podcast is that we are.

Smitten with the Mitten so I always ask my guest to share what they love about Michigan.

[3:37] I love the seasons and of course right now it's fall so it's so beautiful,

I was born and raised here so I grew up in Metro Detroit.

I have a fortune and i was very fortunate to have grandparents that live in northern michigan so i have to spend my summers in town last so.

[3:55] I just didn't love with Michigan I can't say enough great things about it I don't understand why everybody doesn't live here,

absolutely North Area is so beautiful I actually need to go out more exploring with the u p in the Porcupine Mountains and just get way up there because I just been a troll my whole life I've been under the bridge,

Melinda let's go ahead and get more in-depth because I really want the women mothers and families listening to get value from your experiences your expertise and your unique


so just to set up the framework for the people listening you're a consulting your health coach you do all these different things talk us through all that what is that look like for you.

[4:39] Yes

so my holistic health coaching experience has led me to how we can create a very holistic happy healthy mind and body

absolutely the way this relates to family wellness is because there is no

perfect Family Wellness you know I've said this before on the podcast perfect Family Wellness Plan but I am so passionate about bringing those practical applications,

work on elevating their health and family wellness and i think the thing that gives me the you need perspective in the unique voice is that my own family wellness isn't perfect and that i'm on a lifelong journey to equip people with different things they can do.

Quality research-based effective mechanisms in Frameworks to help the women mothers and families listening like we've talked about.

Really take control of their house and just do the simple and conservative thing so honestly at the clinic that's one of the first things that I'm checking for.

Is sensitive to anything that you're putting in your body do we have an inflammatory diet so.

[5:47] I think that provides families value especially with no soy like you said no gluten I'm sure they why the glycemic index or the sugar content of a lot of the food because that's really contributing to the.

Skyrocketing rates of metabolic syndrome and metabolic disease and we can be

here all day talking about that why did you decide to work with this company specifically

now you mentioned earlier that you on a journey i think we all are on a journey it and we never really get to the final destination because we're always learning and growing.

I when I begin Health coaching skills school I found that I was having gut issues.

I didn't realize that I had a dairy intolerance.

[6:32] What.

[6:45] Not really realizing what's causing the protein shake it doesn't have any dairy in it need feel so good and i know it seems kinda simplistic but that's what would that was the door.

That opened up for me and then I found this beautiful product lines and philosophy that.

[7:01] Mirrored my own.

How to take care of themselves.

Healthy lifestyles you know if they learn it from their parents stash if their parents grew up you know in the fifties sixties and seventies you know that's really when the industrial.

Global Food complex really just took off and then there is.

We have to watch what we eat and we have to watch how we move and how we live and how we think this perspective that you're bringing to the mfw community,

like I said is so timing is so valuable and I just want to highlight for a listeners to,

in terms of a distinction you know cuz I think we talked about this in our pre chat would you say that because I work with supplements as well and so I kind of you in a different classification,

nutritional medicine so you know you're taking,

medicinal herb or you're taking a nutraceutical for a specific purpose for a specific,


[8:14] After your body takes out the strep throat you don't continue taking that antibiotics so that's the same idea with my nutritional medicine approach once you're done once your adrenal glands and your HPA axis for example.

Respond to for example the rhodiola ginseng that were using need to continue,

that's the distinction I want to create is the difference between medicine and food and that's why I really think something like really shine but you agree.

[8:46] I totally agree yeah.

Kind of tacos through that like is this on a monthly people sign up for deliveries were they have to go pick something or is it a constant thing where they're going online or having to order on their phone or do they work with you,

outline all that for us.

[9:04] So they could do all of the above how I love to set a client up is really understanding what their needs are sitting the product or service if they need coaching and I'll help them with that.

But when they need a product line will schedule delivery it goes straight to their front door.

Or they can they can order on a month-to-month basis as well.

I'm depending on their usage,


[9:37] I love that part family doing this you can probably connect with people locally in your own Community who have approached you know whether that be.

[9:51] Exercise sydney as you know healthy eating but you could also probably connect with the

different communities all over the nation all over the world even if we fail all the time

don't get it right we stumble along the way and just to know that there are other people,

have the same struggles and there are other people that are as passionate as we are about what we're talking about here which is just changing,

our perspective changing our mindset changing our lifestyle,

i really think that stars people on and spurs them on towards really elevating their health and family wellness furthermore

I think this is perfectly in line with the Chiropractic message

steve michigan family wellness clinic because here's the thing healing does begin with the spine and you can have those visceral somatic reflexes you can have that gut inflammation.

[10:46] That's causing your back text constantly subluxate her to constantly go out so I think working with someone like Melinda using some of that product just changing your food baby steps I'm sure you talk to your clients about this all the time you don't necessarily need to

clearly go one ad which i'm sure you can but i'm sure you coach them on just make little changes every day and slowly get further along,

making no significant changes would you agree with that absolutely it so much easier to make small changes than,

doing a one eighty someone to talk us through some of the benefits of what kind of changes do you see in your coaching or your clients is lives once they start doing your coaching or doing your programs.

[11:29] It's really when they start to pay attention to their own bodies.

[11:33] Answer to feed their bodies what they need an and weather that's food.

Or maybe is exercise maybe it is taking care of themselves and going to the chiropractor or getting a massage or whatever it may be.

What i notice is that they are in powered to make the best choice.

And so it is really educating about empowerment and I I didn't realize that was what I was getting into when I started this practice.

[12:01] I love that though because I'm giving the power back to them.

Until then they create a lifestyle or life or a family life that is full of energy.

They can love themselves they can't without judging what they're doing because they have choice.

There's so many wonderful things of course,

they're they're not on yo-yo diet anymore when they're paying attention what their body really needs.

And then being able to teach them how to make good snack choices or even go to the grocery store and what to buy off the shelf

outstanding mom and and i just love everything you're saying this idea of culture this idea it's the focus is not necessarily on the products themselves the focus is on.

Can people gain working families working them when in the mother's gain in their life as a result of making these simple changes and i think you hit the nail right on the head spending more time with your family,

it's contributing more to the world around them being less irritable sleeping better you know getting relief from pain.

Recovering faster from exercise if you take care of yourself you're going to have improve immune functioning.

And it's the example Microsoft but the concept with me for a moment,

how do we beat apple right what apple focuses on is how do we help teachers.

[13:29] And so I think that's what differentiates the company culture isn't necessarily

physical product that you can offer people and provide the people.


who want to learn more about elevating their family wellness and increasing their resiliency or that strength to adapt

stress and challenges in their life one of the ways we accomplish this is by asking our guests for practical applications.

Moms in families listening today.

[14:16] Start doing their house and Family Wellness.

Absolutely will specifically for the moms or the dads whoever is really paying attention to how they're feeling.

Do yo guys its a great way to connect the mind and the body to listen to what's going on or even walking outside in nature i find,

that a lot of people are so busy we forgot that we have we have healing properties by just walking outside on our grass and looking up at the Sun.

It's amazing how we can bring awareness to our bodies and our minds and our focus by just doing that that's free.

[14:59] Go to that between the sympathetic nervous system

parasympathetic nervous system I love how you mentioned yoga and just focusing in on awareness and deep breathing all of those things are just so great for your parasympathetic nervous system

we are just so stressed out all the time so it's not that you want to increase one or boost the others that you want to bring them into balance because you do need both,

and so I love that point you made their fantastic and where can people find more about you specifically whether it's a website or social media anything like that.

[15:38] Absolutely why am I am on Facebook so anybody is more than welcome to I mean Facebook I'd be happy to share content there,

thanks again melinda and if you're listening to this podcast and this message is resonating with you i want to encourage you to head on over to michigan family wellness dot com.

Where will have a dedicated web page with all the show knows that we mentioned here today.

Also you can expand those show notes right now on your mobile device and you can take advantage,

of those clickable links Melinda thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

[16:12] Thank you doctor kyle's my pleasure,

alright families what you think we'd love to get your feedback if you would like to email me about anything you've heard on this or any previous edition of The Family Wellness lifestyle podcast

you may do so by writing dr. Kyle at Michigan family and take full advantage of the family lifestyle audio library

at Michigan Family connect with us on social media at Michigan Family Wellness thanks so much we can do far more together than we could ever do a part

now that you've been equipped with the latest in Family Wellness Solutions we want to encourage you to apply these strategies right away but the thing is there's still so much to learn,

connect with dr. Wellness Chiropractic and nutrition office buy going to Michigan Family Wellness.

And click the newsletter signup button to join the informative and supportive community of chiropractic wellness you'll also receive as a gift from dr wong there a copy of michigan family will the solution,

invaluable resource containing dynamic tools to elevate family health and vitality michigan family wellness wants,

thank you for being part of today's podcast please subscribe to our podcast on iTunes and give us a 5-star rating and review.