Transcript MFW 032 | Debbie Gordon


[1:06] Best way to have a healthy family is by living a Family Wellness lifestyle so if you're looking.
Should affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family.
Then I strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable because we have an amazing show for you today Debbie's Journey started years ago when her daughter was injured on the basketball court.

[1:27] A licensed massage therapist began rubbing oils on her daughter telling her
about the healing properties of each oil what should have taken weeks to recover only took day Debbie was so impressed at the speed of healing
he began her journey will extensive research.
And by the flex technique known as raindrops through care debbie continue her education i getting her are wrong with their best certification.
True or on the height debbie is also licensed under the national there he's certification board alright families let's jump into today's interview.
Welcome families to the interview portion of today's podcast my guest on the show today is Debbie Gordon welcome to the podcast.

[2:16] Thank you I'm so glad to be here.

[2:18] Again Debbie I just need to stop and Marvel I feel like I say this for the last few episodes
or expertise.
To the women the mothers in the families listening so that they can and get value from hearing your story as relates to Roma therapy in the essential oils.
That being said we do have two questions that we always ask our guests here on the podcast so.
Real quick Debbie I just told her family's a little bit about you as professional on the podcast is family.
Could you tell us a little bit more about you as the person and what does family look like for you.

[3:06] Oh absolutely i been married for thirty five years of the thirty six years to shake this coming year congratulations
thank you we have four children all three boys and a girl and I actually homeschooled my children so I've been very blessed to stay with them and from the time they were born till they graduated.
Oh awesome that's that's really great i do have a couple families that do home schooling here in michigan in the area and i just i give you guys a lot of credit for what you're able to do.

[3:39] Thank you absolutely just the next thing is there anything about Michigan that you love one of our smitten with the mitten
and I know you're down there in Texas but if there's any connection at all go ahead and share that with us real quick.

[3:56] No actually I have never actually been to Michigan and I would love to take a trip there
likewise i would love to go down and spend some more time in texas usually am flying through whether it be houston or dallas or some like that
will that being said debbie let's go ahead and dive in to some depth here because i really want the women the mothers and the families listening to get value from your like i said your experience is your expertise
your unique perspective so go ahead tell us about your daughter and what happened all those years ago as it relates to essential oils.

[4:29] Oh okay well my journey started and my daughter was playing basketball and and you think that guys are effing basketball but i think girls are a little bit,
I learn more rest and she was on the basketball court and a girl.

[4:44] Wanted to take her out and she came up from behind her and need her and I saw that from the stands
and she need her and my daughter's name which definitely took her out and a massage therapist came over and begin rubbing oils on her leg instead.
This or what is the s and this or what is that and i was just amazed and i sit down is my friend and i said that ladies rubbing oils on my daughter and she says
good don't you know about those and I said no so that started my journey and I began to do a a tremendous amount of research
because I thought aromatherapy was candles and I had plenty of candles.
I didn't need anymore but as I began to research that and began to experiment I knew I needed to learn more about just amazing healing abilities of oils.

[5:35] So when you say oils like a perspective.
Let's say that I'm listening and I have no idea what the essential oils are.
Listeners are we talking about talking about.
How to oil olive oil are these just regular oils or like what are we talking
those times of always or fatty oils are at olive oils
or what we would call carrier oils they have the proteins telling them and they are not just the old and in a lot of those levels are held press which would you are healthier for our body's like in
olive oil but essential oils are different they are actually
the plant parts the leaves the stems a bark the roots that are actually still processed and different forms mainly is steam distilled which means that.
I'm only 500 jme use the atomic mass is actually able to.
Through that distillation process and she do pure we are which is called essential oil which is the.
Turn it up that plant material that was to steeled and that's called an essential oil.

[6:53] Okay yeah so I'm kind of getting up a better understanding now
for a listeners if I could different kinds of coconut oil.
Music for cooking and fur.
Nutritional value or for caloric value.
And there's also oils like you said essential oils that are from plants old pressed all those things and better distilled and i would almost classify those in terms of medicine like of medicinal value so we have food
have like caloric value and we have medicinal value does that kinda make sense to you absolutely two different categories and that's correct
gotcha okay so what your saying is these oils these essential oils they actually have a therapeutic effect on the body can you talk about that.

[7:47] Yes and said there is and then when you get into essential oils there Ashley two categories of essential oils you have what I would call the I called him the the donkey oils or The Fragrant oils and then.
Let's say if we were going to do that in the category of horses see have donkeys in any have zebras so you have that the oils at work that i car fragrance oils that you might would into soaps
candles and that sort of thing their fragrances and that's what their purpose is their distillation purpose when they are
they are distilled then you have what I called body aromatherapy type oils which are therapeutic oils that are non toxic to the body so those are what I call zebra oils because those oils are very expensive oils
and they're not as common they're not as many companies just steal those types of oils a for therapeutic
it says that you do have the other oils are very common that you will see in the grocery stores that you will say in a lot of products that are manufactured
and does are very inexpensive oils that they were never intended it to be put on the body the bring up a great point here dev and i'm sure we could talk all day about
just this one issue but city give our listeners more of a contest or more understanding in the same way that.

[9:10] With my chiropractic clinic with my chiropractic in nutritional office you know I'm only going to use the nutritional medicine or the supplements that herbs the vitamins and minerals omega-3 fish oils I'm only use those products that have
That you can order off Amazon that you can't walk into Walmart and purchase you know these companies they only work with licensed doctors so to give that to you what I hear you saying.
You don't wanna be ingested or inhaled or use dirty oils is that your saying at selling.
Because those oils as you're saying those essential oils they are not processed for you to use on your children
to use on your body to try to support your body systems at all those particular essential oils ce ce were manufactured in that was their intent and their purpose was to
is an essential oil very quickly at a very high temperature which which kills the property of the plant.

[10:21] And then it is not you it's not our bet our bodies are not able to use those so it makes it a very toxic product.

[10:30] This is a fantastic point like I was saying Debbie and I just really want to drive this home for people like with most things.
If if certain signals can be used for.
Powerful signal signaling for healing then you need to do that proper way
likewise you can distort all of that or you can use the opposite end of the spectrum and not get that full therapeutic effect i mean take food as an example you're gonna get a much.
additional value from a piece of organic fruits that was well watered without any pesticides or besides or anything like that.
Then you are from a piece of fruit or an apple that's been you know sprayed with Roundup and has all these chemicals on it they're going to have to completely opposite effect so.
Use this as an analogy to what you're saying there are those oils which I'm sure we can talk about.

[11:29] There are there oils that can have profound healing signals for aromatherapy for therapeutic benefits for your body and those the ones that we want to talk about those are the ones that we want to talk about the benefits in the value of here today
we don't want people to think that they can just go out and get some she dirty oils and start rubbing them on their feet.
And say hey this doesn't work i'm not feeling better right absolutely that is absolutely either he hit that dad on
so wanna go and tell us about the rain drop technique and kind of the whole via fax thing you do absolutely so when your wanting it so using an essential oil on.
I on the body is.

[12:10] There are there different techniques that can be used so that you can utilize that to help the body to heal just as you're doing Chiropractic work you know that the spine is where the Healing Begins.

[12:23] Set correct absolutely absolutely okay said just in
that also using the take me which is called rain drop which is
a technique that includes vitaflex vitaflex is using the fingertips the pads of the fingers rolling up to the tips of the fingers and then driving and then that creates a very rapid motion.
Which creates a low voltage in the body.
Up to stimulate in those channel's in our body we have marines are channel's and the body suit for healing purposes so there are over five thousand.
Vitaflex points are or reflex points of the body and those
areas can actually be used we can actually do that little technique by the flyes
on those points to help healing to bring about healing in those areas and then when you add an essential oil on top of that it just creates a Synergy I mean it's like 10 to the 10th power
when you're using as an essential oil in a healing technique
your body to pray to keep your body over that wellness line which is what we're trying to dave so there's feather earring and stimulation and the more you stimulate those different areas on the feet and on the back it using an.

[13:43] Your preferred essential oil then that helps your body to have a healing effect.

[13:50] Test it unitas really appreciate all the value that you sharing here i really like the neurology behind the essential oils and you know what they have to offer for.
And yeah i mean sis speaking personally know getting va honorable with our listeners shipped
a rain drop therapy has really helped my own mother she's had tons of spinal problems tons of back
pain issues i actually did some sessions of the rain drop therapy the range op protocol directly on her spine in conjunction with the chiropractor justin's that we're doing.
I just can't say enough how much better she fell i would say during that time she fell.
The best when we were able to consistently do the Raindrop therapy like every week.
I would say that's when her back would feel the best for sure absolutely and i got and i wouldn't even answer to that is even adding with the car practice it
adjustment having that done and then doing a raindrop on a different day actually the two actually
for each other because what you do then the raindrops will go in it
that the oils ended the technique they will actually go in and help to support what you did.

[15:00] I just want to cite something else for our listeners here to this is from the New England Journal of Medicine from 1998 so it's a little dated
having been said they've done radio grass of they've done x-rays of actually people that have pots disease or what's known as tuberculosis of the spine.
And they've actually done treatments of rain drop therapy directly on to.
The spinal segments where they have this infection of tuberculosis and they can show before and after images.

[15:29] The improvements of that person's tuberculosis in their spine after receiving.
The rain drop therapy so i just think this is a great this is a conservative this is a gentle technique an alternative healing technique that can have such profound impact for healing.

[15:48] Wow that's incredible so I'm actually going to link to that in the show notes and have that as a resource for our listeners are you able to speak at all these things work in terms of the mechanisms.

[16:02] Well basically what I can say is
now it does support for instance one of the oils that she's just a regular oregano support your respiratory system that
way right now actually works and i like visual pictures and has people to remember so it's like a window with a plant on the other side if the window is full of dirt.
The sun cannot get through.
And the plant on the other side will wither or become very sickly our sales are like Windows so when you use oregano on the body.
Does it is like windex and then goes in and it gives the sale i clean up white
so then I'm as you continue to use their that you said you do this on a regular basis it will continue to cleanse at that sell off so that nutrition can get to that sale and then
so that she from you know so just like a window clean being clans
be able to have sense up sunshine come through and heal the plant of well that's the way that the essential oil works with the right now.

[17:13] Tasks again debbie at wanna point out something else that you're illustrating here you know you're sharing your expertise your using these metaphors these analogies because you've studied.
Sensual oils and your actually certified you have you known as i mentioned earlier around the therapist certification your around the height you know what your talking about.
I want to guide people towards are people like yourself i want the women the mothers the families and the patients out there.
To work with someone who knows what they're doing because here's the thing like I was saying earlier.
You could take oregano and you could use it inappropriately but if you use it at the right level at the right time in the right sequence it can have a
sound effect for healing but if you do if you use it in the wrong way then it's you know like people that put oregano up their nose when they don't necessary yeah it's like why would you do that especially if they don't have any sinus issues going on
there needs to be education about how to use the essential oils correctly let's talk about that a little bit actually because you can diffuse the oils in the air you can read them on your feet.
Let's talk us through the different applications are on the therapy in the essential oils.

[18:23] How absolutely say you're very correct on as far as being about using essential oils correctly there are certain oils that are high in phenols that are,
what we would consider hot oils well these particular oils do need to be certain
across your skin and then.
And then doing it again the next day and then again eventually that's again it's going to become very sensitive to that area and I would guess what we cause skin sensitization so that
you actually can break out from that and it can cause some issues so you do need to know how to apply an essential oil
loyal to the body and the safest place is the bottom of the feet are feet will absorb that oil was in 10 minutes.
Can some sorry it will be in the body and within twenty minutes it will be in the entire body system via the blood in being able to get into the blood.

[19:31] I think i said before that the oils are five hundred a m you small meaning that's teeny teeny tiny i'm and that is reason why it
penetrates our body and can pass that blood-brain barrier.
So you wouldn't want to put a what we consider a hot oil on the skin without.
Diluting it or at least having a layer of a carrier oil which we talked about carrier oils being the coconut oil or the the jojoba oil the arm and oils and that sort of thing
the other way that a person can use that oil is to actually breathe it in because that will go to the factory where you will be able to breathe that in it goes to the limbic system where are memory is stored if you.
At Christmas time,
some smells that you smell or at Thanksgiving times maybe that would be pumpkin spice or a pumpkin pie well that will if a person smells that it will bring back that memory so we had that stored in our brain,
it really thing emotional patterns that were she specifically cuz ian talks about.
Now we are able to really sir mission stay that windex system.

[20:54] And we can use essential oils for that purpose so we can also use essential oils internally again you would need to.

[21:04] Then that is where you really need to be careful because there are certain ways you can take certain essential oils
with a clear capsule about putting certain certain amount of drops in the capsule and then maybe adding and an olive oil
nah carrier all with that and you can do you do it that way i taking it and maybe are rice milk or even penny we also can ingesting that way so it
again you would want to know why you going to be using that oil.
How long are you going to be using it for and it's better to as you said get a little bit of Education in that and that is the reason why I
spent thousands of hours studying that I
decided she I needed more information that's why I became an aromatherapist and then I also like it so went through care to learn how to do body aromatherapy because they don't teach that as an aromatherapist so I
wanted the whole enchilada
go back a little bit and see if you can pick up and just kinda emphasize some the points you're making their back to when you were talking about oregano i can definitely just again speaking from personal experience and just kind identifying with our listeners here.

[22:19] I actually talked about using the oils in your seats I had a plantar wart years ago
and part of the protocol this Ward was actually to use oregano for its antiviral on anti micro.
He's actually right on the war itself and i can i i can tell you that once i started doing that.

[22:39] I had so much faster success you know like they say 12 weeks or something like that for a check if you're really using a lot of salicylic acid or like that well.
Those tend to kill all recommend using these natural alternatives like oregano so I'm glad you,
i know other thing you mentioned was just kind of the the olfactory nerve so again as chiropractor in very specific about adjusting the spine.
Adjusting the spinal column for that central nervous system impact and what I love about faction or cranial nerve one is that.

[23:14] When you smell something it goes directly that nerve specifically this is unique to the sense of olfaction so there's other senses that we have likes.
And sound and taste and touch but smell specifically is the only sense that will go directly to your frontal cortex
and when you look at the Neurology of it all of our other senses actually synapse in the thalamus or there is a connection in the thalamus before they go to our frontal cortex so to your point as well with memory with the limbic system that's why
when you smell something it's almost like the memory comes.
Front of your mind before you even realize it you know so like i've i've gone down in the basement before and it'll smell like my grandparents basement for whatever reason and then all three seconds later of the
oh my gosh like this reminds me of grandma's house so that's the principle of what we're talking about here is that olfactory nerve.

[24:10] It goes directly to the frontal cortex and not to the Falmouth 1st which
then ties into your next Point that's why it's so effective in terms of a depression model in terms of an ADHD these essential oils you talked about the blood-brain barrier.
But that's why these essential oils can be so powerful and so impactful for anyone that has any kind of a neurocognitive.
Neurodegenerative condition or just has trouble concentrating more trouble falling asleep all of these brain functions.
Can be significantly influenced and impacted a lot of pharmaceutical companies.
With their drug manufacturing they're trying to figure out what drugs actually pass the blood-brain barrier do all of the essential oils cross the blood-brain barrier or are there only specific ones
what i've been studying
what I understand they all penetrate the skin but there are certain ones.
Are very specific to that that
are very high and certain chemicals so are the chemical constituents.
For instance frankincense is a very good one that will actually do that.

[25:30] Okay that's great I just like that clarification there because that's actually what I understand it to be too so I use the analogy of like a cheesecloth cheesecloth or like a fine-mesh strainer is only going to let.

[25:43] Things of a certain size through it so that's kind of the analogy I use for the blood-brain barrier there is this barrier between our brain and the circulation system of our skull or of our head.
So things that are small enough to go through the blood brain barrier those are permeable those can go through other things like abba for example the neurotransmitters gathers not supposed to go through your blood brain barrier.
And so that's why in a clinical model and you feel,
the brain as they say to go along with the leaky got discussions that are so popular cell so debbie i know we talked about this in our free chat
but the reality is in such a toxic world we have tons of chemical exposures in our everyday life.
And not only that but our food is so toxic as well with all of the.
Sides in the er besides that are just in our environment are just a become part of our lives today so my question for you is is there a detoxification component of the essential oils.

[26:51] Oh absolutely I'm dead as one of the.

[26:54] More gentle ways that a person can they tosser body on a regular basis.
Does it just says we to
talked about oregano they actually will go in and cleanse the receptor size they go in and delete misinformation and they have to set the set up shop kind of like
the mom goes in and she cleans up and she make sure everything is running very effectively as essential oils have
these ones have those same chemical components that will go in and help that sell to detox and repair it
fantastic I just love the person that makes perfect sense
okay thanks.
How these things work on a mechanistic level so thank you for that what is your favorite way to actually use the oils.

[27:51] Well course i do body aromatherapy so i do that.
Practically everyday I'm working on the feet I'm working on the the other spine area I'm talking about the brain I do vitaflex also on the head and just know various body parts and so
that's my favorite way is to use body around the therapy
i'd do the fuse and others a diffuser that a person can pad and all and if they don't want to if they're not very comfortable with that they can just of use it on and she said free that and it will still get into the bloodstream but it won't be is
quickly and sometimes oils are better used.

[28:34] Specifically on that body part but my favorite way actually is to.
Body aromatherapy.
Do you have your favorite essential oils that you use on a regular basis or is there anything that people can use for anxiety or stress or fatigue
that these Citrus oils are excellent for.
Helping to promote those Happy Feelings so if you want to wake up your brain those are some oils essential oils that will actually wake you up,
perk you make you feel good and make you feel happy and that's pretty much.
Picking essential picking up a citrus oil so that will happen now there's
as we know schedules to so many different things so i can take one or we on and the and talk about that for hours right,
ge they're all state help specifically children to happen.
Focus if they're doing homework or if they're having any trouble just sitting down there certain oils that people on there's been a study done on vetiver that helps them to come into Focus
and rosemary is another oil that helps the memory peppermint is not one that you would that you can actually just kind of sniff that way.
The wake of the brain also so this is something steak and a two as yours is studying and.

[30:02] Thing about essential oils you'll find that someone well may we.

[30:08] Better than another oil the lavender may have a person to sleep.

[30:12] I wake up another person c is it is a kind of a trial and error that you can you know that okay i'm gonna try it as sit your soul to weight myself at the.
Take your sister so that mart and try the next one so you might want tangerine re my lemon.
Orange those those try a different Citrus oil to see which one will work for you that wakes you up
peppermint before just rather than using coffee drinking 5-hour Energy.
For mentioning that the purpose of the Michigan Family Wellness podcast is to really be an audio library resource
stress and challenges in their life nine or talking about essential oils today and so obviously you know obtaining those.
Quality essential oils would be a great first step in terms of other resources like is there anywhere else that
learn more about how to use the oils different protocols different applications is there any where that you are direct and.

[31:21] Well I ain't there is a free source if a person doesn't want to hear if they're not
and I don't want to purchase a but there's a lots of excellent but if they don't want to purchase a but if they want to go online a very good source that I like to look at is organic it's just a.
They don't sell oils and you can.
I go there type in the essential oil for instance of peppermint essential oil and they will kind of give you the property of that oil it will tell you how.
From various medical uses that they can use that particular all for four but i will not tell you actually how to apply it to the body so that's one place.

[32:04] Another place that i like going to is loyal dash.
The millennials dot com where these are actual real people so is a free basic search so you just register for that and.
I'm typing in that condition that you're looking for and if there's a database on that it will pop up and it will tell what a real person.
Used and how they use that oil on their body in the result that they got so that's a couple of places
so thank you for that and I just wanted to go and I don't want this to turn into a
yeah branding no and that's not my world in my opinion what you said i just want people to use good clean oil so whether that's young living or do terra or whatever other company that's out there that's doing a good job that's what i want people to do i don't want them to go
to their health food store and buy dirty oils off the shelf so how do you ask that.

[33:06] Well I know you do a lot of research on that day at the oils and when you start researching on the internet here's the thing just as I told you
there's a category of what you call but I called the donkey oils and then there's the zebra oils so a majority of the companies.
There they are just producing is how the oil is produced the.

[33:29] The oils are going to say everyone of them grocery store rules or what have there going to say one hundred percent pure that's not what you're looking for you they will all say one hundred percent pure is just a label
what you're looking for is how is that oil produced that is what matters so the
if the oil is produced at a very high temperature which destroys the property of the oil very quickly then it's not going to be the kind of oil you're going to want to use for your family but what you're looking for is
the person that the company that produces the oil correctly so now you got to do even deeper research you got to start saying okay how is that oil produced how did.
Company produced that oil where are they getting that oil from so if,
a company actually produces their own oil they've planted their seed it dave crown that plant material was say it's a mom and pop type court.

[34:33] Are they planted their seed they baby did they nurture did they.
Harvest they harvested that plant material they distilled that plant material at the correct temperature.
Takes on will take lavender for instance this is a very good point you take lavender and yet there is a world leader and what,
fragrant oils and what they do is i will take lavender in it takes him.
Eighteen minutes to process that lavender oil at a very high temperature.
They eat out 100% of the oil
and now you got to cheat oil but it smells wonderful is a fragrant oil then you have the
took the next company the one that you would want to use for the body while it takes them on the lavender to distill that oil at least an hour and a half.
Very low temperature and they only get out about seventy percent of that we on the other thirty percent they're not able to extract that out of that distillation process so what is that going to do that makes that
Body Oil very expensive because it took way longer to do it.
And I didn't get all the oil out of it but what you have is an oil that is non-toxic to the body that is very healing to the body the other oil the 15 minute oil.

[35:55] Is not going to heal the oil as a matter of fact that oil that the the the 15 minute oil is very high in Camp.

[36:04] Okay thank you
15 minute oil is going to burn your skin worse it's going to make your condition a lot worse why
it's the way it was processed so what you're looking at when you're looking at an oil es hell is that we have processed
so now your research will take you a little bit deeper and you're going to say what company produces those therapeutic oils.
I like the way you emphasize a process to technique manufacturing you know mechanisms there I find that that's a much better way to approach it
and saying my dad but in your battery some like that selma steady thank you so much for working people fine you on line.
My website is holistic tension is not spelled the way holistic is stay out age away all my web said is age
oil oil is in the middle because that's what I'm about so it's holistic
it's again debbie and if you're listening to this podcast and this message is resonating with us relates to around the.

[37:14] Essential oil as an alternative healing I want to highly encourage you to head on over to Michigan family
Where will have a dedicated web page with all the show knows that we've mentioned here today Debbie thank you so much for coming on the podcast today.
Oh thank you dr. Kyle that was amazing you did a beautiful job of explaining the science behind and just.
Giving a very good clear visual picture I'm going to enjoy every listening to this.

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Transcript MFW 031 | Laura Devine

[0:00] Music.

[1:09] Wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health.

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[1:21] Show for you today laura is a certified personal trainer and a yoga instructor with a fast his degree in dance,
she has taught trained and managed at gyms and studios in new york city chicago and most recently charlottesville virginia.
After losing her daughter he at forty weeks into a perfectly healthy pregnancy florida stars to help other baby loss mothers.
Find postpartum peace through the practice of yoga alright families let's jump into today's entered,
welcome family see the interview portion of state podcast ninth guest on the show today it is more define welcome to the podcast for it so great to have the.

[2:02] Yeah there's again laura i just need to stop and marvel at the incredible ness if that's a word of technology.
Thank you so much for reaching out to come on the family on this podcast i really thing,
if the women mothers and families listening will get value from hearing your voice,
your experiences and your story as relates to pregnancy stillbirth and your practice of yoga,
that being said we do have two questions that we always ask our guests here on the machine family on this podcast so laura i've just hold your families a little bit about you as the professional but one of the core values hear on the podcast his family tell us a little bit more about us the person and what,
does family look like for you,
i would say advent my vision family play changed in the past couple years after becoming a mother i mean is,
especially after becoming a mother to a stillborn baby in silence say,
them for me family is alan,
those who you hold close in your heart even when they're not physically presence i'm not tough question for many women who had stillborn children are,
how many kids you have a get out one a lot yeah and you know and i also get to is this your first child only see my sons cell am.

[3:32] You know i do you always say my daughter is as well as my son as far as a kid style i'm a man and the love year-end for me and,
that's a family for mia's sanctuary error coming home,
to my little family here in charlottesville i don't have earned our extended family around in chicago and cannot get but i love,
in coming home to my son and my wonderful husband and my the,
she's definitely that i believe of the family so i just love hearing about different people's family dynamics in on you mentioned.
Not only your husband and your son but also your people there that's just awesome so,
another thing i love to say here on the michigan family on this podcast is that were smitten with the mitten so i always ask my gas if there's anything they love about michigan yes so i'm not as familiar lake michigan as i am with,
lake michigan i live in chicago for a couple years my husband is from chicago,
i am and i live way you which is right next to lake michigan right on lake michigan so i have very fond memories of that,
i am in my husband always talk to me i'm gonna say this right but making i'm just a,
it works he has very bad memories of vacationing there's a child so our hope wednesday is two and a pair of some rumors and.

[5:01] Fantastic love it well thank you again for just sharing your time and experiences with us here on the machine family on this podcast so okay laura let's go ahead and get more in depth because i really want to win in mothers and families listening to take away value from your experiences your expertise and your unique,
a prospective.
As result of hearing your voice today i want to start off by saying congratulations right off the back for your beautiful baby boy i think you're very blast.
And i think our listeners will agree once they hear your story so go ahead and tell us about your first pregnancy.

[5:36] Sure and so i can get my birthday actually be i had an early miscarriage and.
Result and i had enc on and than,
us shortly after that i got pregnant again arm and a.

[5:56] Had a wonderful pregnancy i am i was at the time and still am working in fitness in size and is director country i am also,
just gotten my certification in yoga size teaching glasses it fit is glasses as a personal trainer i found.
In eating very quiet amen visiting every day i had an,
super healthy wonderful pregnancy up until the very and in in new years day of two thousand fourteen i notice that my,
i have a daughter wasn't moving out like she normally did she was a very active child when you roll in.
So i called my doctor he you in hot weather pregnancy is in so help me you'll be fine waited out the strings of is we see if she moves,
i'm so we did that for awhile and it was still kinda and.

[6:59] She was not moving like she normally did so we ended up going into the hospital.

[7:06] This is fourteen weeks and three days i'm sad actually happening today i am and a astern.
A bed doppler on my stomach and will get all around the reverse ez and then the doctor from leaking i nobody was saying my ex knew something was.

[7:27] Off and in a doctor confirmed that my daughter was gone at twenty,
i am so is directly out of the blue after us is just as she shock,
accesible me and i have and you know especially after having such a,
healthy pregnancy that's what really struck me just from reading a little bit of your story there's a great blog post your route that kinda goes along with an again laura thank you for being so vulnerable thank you just for being open about you know these experiences these are probably not the most easy to talk about especially having walk through it so i just wanna just,
is point that out and thank you for yours on their ability here today on the on the apps tell us more about i mean you had gone in it and everyone was saying,
you're perfectly healthy everything's going great what was it like to finally be told all my gosh this surprising event has happened.

[8:21] I was in total and complete shock so i and i am one stone-faced and and just on,
i was just completely in shock my husband was deathly warm ocean at twenty and i just knew i had a job to get done in ny and,
and claim my daughter we found out later was eight hundred ounces ans,
so we had sue i hats you going to labor me and i ask the protocol is thinking have,
you know somehow this will just go away but you do you actually have to go through,
later on in mine was long and arduous it was at fifty two hours.
After i was induced aaron and then delivery in my daughter and,
and getting her shoulder special there is still shut off you're familiar yes yes charles cell,
three doctors came in from another practice cuz the doctor in our practice can not get her out so there's very traumatic and and,
yeah hurry yeah most of it i was in shock and i think was a deliver her kinda hit home a little bit warm,
i guess in that sense my job was done in another sense it was a beginning on that,
yeah it just seems like it would take,
such great strength just physically mentally emotionally spiritually to go through that you talked about fifty two hours of labor without experience it's just staggering see even imagine so yeah and then you talk about you contact the and yoga and how your practice of yoga kind are really not only van help you through that experience and.

[10:13] Your everything afterwards but still continues to be a relief for source of healing practice of meditation tell us more about that sure cell.
During during labor or seen other the reading helped me on unit and stay hasn't and i'm just in bearing the pain and are,
after words a.

[10:36] Browse as you can imagine it out to play after is it lady and emotionally in a very rough place are still being personal trainer and miss chili.
I was very aggressive,
will stay with my workouts i want to get back to run em juss you know when the motions out to be bad on you suppose her am i when back probably quicker than i should with you more recipe for the masters is in.

[11:08] Add the first couple weeks scene i don't know i was ready to stress i am i deal with the emotion and i am.
But i remember going into my daughter's nursery on the day of her funeral and i did you yoga practice to honor her on and so.

[11:27] I still feel very connected to her for your writing yoga through the pregnancy every night so on and so that was in the connection there to my daughter and.
I am yeah is so nice and warm real and honest bed and as you rest of workouts,
you not having trouble sleeping which is to be expected amen i was already under stress but i was just putting more stress on my body and and we on so i got it back.
And i started focusing more on the the the notice yoga was actually sorta helping me on.

[12:05] I get more grounded with everything being as simple as it was on a training helps me process,
no way,
i am in a way i'm wasn't was kind of waiting things mormon has doing the more aggressive things enough of those necessarily wrong but at the time i had the yoga was definitely a great wrote an article for briggs and off again with my crappy thing that was kind of what,
what help me and gets real.

[12:34] There's a couple times you know i think you bring up a great point there it's almost as if like you said exercise is a form of stress and i think.

[12:45] Oftentimes when you're already stressed out whether that be with our job or our family and our just kind of the environment that we currently have there are season in life trying to,
exercise can be a good thing you can help us have those signals of stressing our body's in good ways and i think you mentioned how.
Yoga was doing that well for you but then i have these haitians that i work with and often times it's like they want to run a marathon and anything that they have to,
go out and run for hours and hours and hours maybe after they work or very early in the morning and i'm just trying to coach them and guide them and saying hey you know what.

[13:21] You might not be able to handle that because you're already so stressed out like it's so taxing for your.
Adrenals in your hp axis inches frying your brain maybe you should consider something more like yoga and reserve that kind of training that kind of intense exercise for maybe a different time when you're more suited.
To be able to recover and rest and handle that kind of exercise and i'm sure as a personal trainer you can speak more that as well that being said,
i do like how you talked about justin you're a trans min or gathers so can you can talk us through that and how that played about into your.
Yoga practice yes sell it i going until after the happening in going insane and i guess you know i've always known i had sort of a war on anxious penis and,
at ms i know that and you know it runs in my family so as i was very aware of prior to sue on,
the red my daughter and she's and also after so i knew that i was more prone to anxiety on,
and in that sense i knew that practicing the yoga i'm should take precedence on the penis on.

[14:38] Balance things out cuz yes you in your head they have down and there is a study and have no right now hm something from boston and i,
that's actually does increase levels of having a break is there science behind.
Yoga in unison practiced for many years but only recently has it in studied bed,
actually changes your brain and the way your brain functions in practices such as yoga and meditation can have their suits and hats.
I am on the way you handle strasse yes and i love the mention this because as you mentioned can it in that article the risk of postpartum depression and this is kind of where the value size in here for a listeners,
is not only have i or someone that just has a beautiful natural birth but.
It's four times greater for the mother of a stillborn.
Then the mother of all living baby according to the women's mental health from the massachusetts general hospital so i love that component there because i would much rather have.
A patient or a woman or a mother.

[15:55] Do i natural practice you know like yoga and then i know that you really washed away you e and your lifestyle and your thoughts and all of that,
i'd much rather have someone goes that route then become dependent upon a lot of the benz ada's a p means the ss are eyes the d to agnes those are heavy miro cognitive drugs and like i said it's not that they're so bad in and of themselves it's taking them for long periods of time you developer cept,
after sensitivity and so i get into kind of a detail with this in my brain lectures in the same way that a diabetic can become sensitive to insulin okay you can developed,
insulin sensitivity where your cells no longer are responsive to that hormone,
the same thing can happen in your brain and throughout the rest of your body with neurotransmitters gab just re listeners just a kind,
to death thirty thousand foot view when we talk about gavin that is cam i'm you know beers here at assets so it's in euro transmitter,
and your ss your cells your neurons can actually become sensor ties to these medications that influence.
That changing brain chemistry so like i was saying with laura you know she's doing not only diet lifestyle changes but this practice of yoga.
Is can be so effective in preventing that postpartum depression would you agree there laura i.
And see even go one step further their just kinda tired and.

[17:26] Chiropractic no eyes as a chiropractor myself i just like to insert this year to my patients know this as well when you actually just someone's spine in terms of that chiropractic adjustment at the right time at the right level at the right sequence,
gather or that nero transmitter is very inhibits tori meaning it can down regulate inflammation and an a it has a similar effect in door sends actually which,
we all know that endorphins are some of the most powerful nerd transmitter hormones that the body makes and gabby is like,
a close second so the cool thing is when you adjust someone spine with us there low back there mid backer their neck.

[18:08] Gavel is actually released from the dorsal root gang land or from that special part of the spinal cord.
And the great thing as its not a drug that's initiating that gabby or sent a drug that's initiating the said the says or it's not a drug that's initiating the prevention of the re uptake of the nra transmitter it's this natural conservative gents on specific,
release of the spine officer joins.
And then you get that rush of god and that's why it feels so good when you get adjusted when you have that good adjustment so i do like to just point that out for our listeners their you know we've mention this on the podcast before.
This is just so good for balancing the nervous system,
this helps you to be less irritable to sleep better relief from pain recover faster from exercise your gonna have improved immune system your gonna have increase concentration.
So there's so many benefits and value to that chiropractor adjustment and the cabin mechanism is a great way to explain it in fact if you read a lot of the.
Literature and research journals on chiropractic that is often the mechanism they used to measure the effectiveness.
Of the adjustments i love the way you type that in la rock your yoga practice and just.
And having it be kind of a natural determines to that post partum depression i think families and the women mothers listening will get a lot of value from that,
now i know been talking about chiropractor for a moment have you ever been adjusted do you currently see a chiropractor out there virginia is there any connection there for at saying as.

[19:43] Around the time i started getting in to that it this is when i was living in chicago it was the first time i went to a character in to that i tried yoga,
is for you know live in new york and i never really had wasn't really open to it at the time it just wasn't the right time for me it would interesting is one eight,
started it with the character,
i took my first yoga class as well and it went for me so i'm winter there something there in a maybe it was directed adjustment that actually opened me to be able to really enjoy via the other for the,
i am so yeah i have in the past currently i don't in and i'm sure you hear this alot of people arms,
in pain vera comes years later probably shouldn't without you now as a preventative measure on,
but but not what you really good and i think the only keeps me limber at this point so,
yeah absolutely not only is chiropractic no in those conservative therapies surgery free drug free and great for when you have you know an acute condition.
You know that one of the reasons why you know the michigan family wellness clinic puts on this podcast is just educate people that chiropractic is a great resource and tool and health and wellness approach just for general maintenance in the same way that everyone knows about.
Going to get your teeth cleaned every six months it's great to just go get checked for a spinal adjustment between at least in my opinion every four to six weeks a ten visits a year.

[21:21] It's so great to have those that central nervous system tune because with regards to your teeth you know the worst case scenario is get a bunch cavities and they have to plot all your teeth and.
Give you a new set of teeth in terms of your spine you know there's so much that can be done to prevent that early onset to generation and we don't really have a spinal transplant surgery yet so you know it's it's is very imp.
Of your spine of your back as specially as we're talking about with lori here during pregnancy.
And during the postpartum period i wanna encourage all of our listeners to.
Check out michigan family wellness episode seventeen where i talk with dr j warren about the specific.
Benefits and value of chiropractic care for pregnancy and pediatrics specifically for those seasons in life and will go ahead and drop the link in the show notes.
To that episode as well furthermore i have a double blind clinical research study that validates the effectiveness of chiropractic care.
Four pregnancies so if you have and if you can kind of pick up on this already will have lots of links in the show notes for you today.
And yeah i'm in the michigan family wellness were trying to be a.
Audio library were trying to be this compassionate light house that's able to lead people down the path of resilience e and restoration,
so laura i know you also talk about how your practice not only were you preventing post-partum depression with yoga.

[22:52] And your died your lifestyle and your training but you also were able to help down slot hormones can you tell the women and families listening more about how,
your yoga practice and everything you were doing was helping to balance their hormones any simple and safe and effective way.

[23:07] Sure yeah know what it was all ints you wooden arm,
and looking back and i did a lot of research after words because i didn't know best,
i have actually trouble getting my cycle back on after my daughter and i would i went to the doctors on an ace and you know it's obviously stress,
related to your body sandra in even lotion only on you know let's give you something to get it back and i say no i don't really,
wanna do that you know i'm gonna wait and not rush on it the screen so i let me see what i can do i am so,
i just got a practice you know that a little more research on sue what ashley does for,
or loans in in without going into any specifics a lot of the hose is i actually do massage stirring glands in an urban ism stays this show that actually in houston the hormones as well as just that i am,
are they that toxins here,
i am resting digest in paris and the bank nervous system in you no doubt longest any into that more often.
I can help balance out your hormones on in really and i come in on your adrenal gland i am in can i get you back,
me and alan ss absolutely no i love the way you say there i actually have never heard that quite.

[24:39] Specifically before but you talk about a certain poses actually massaging those glands are kind of moving those glands actually make,
take those hormones and that's such a great way you know cuz we can ss early put our hand on our juno glands and can you know massage and rub them but if we actually do some of these poses,
is that your talking about we can actually do that from the inside out is that your saying.
Yeah yeah and is in it for about the because you nine s sure you seen any be at the house and as you know that you're the posing practice their ways we don't move every day rudra.
Had a very in missouri again stocked or something like that but i am seventy two moving in different ways and in that way you are stimulating different parts of your body that you normally my not,
especially if you're sitting at a desk job or something like that i'm gaining day how,
we'll fantastic laura in terms of practical applications i know you kinda mention the awesome as are the poses but,
you know are there any thing that women mothers and families listing today what can they do practically as a result hearing your voice and listening to today's podcast in gen,
i will be late by her is mom's,
see you at practice you know it is your ceo it sounds like something that would be beneficial to i am,
you know it does not have to be a long practice you know that you can do you ten minutes and see the banna head i really think that it's more about consistency.

[26:12] I am a quality as opposed to being are doing is long extensive am.
Ninety minute practice that say assets in finance your day as a mom i am and you'll notice if you do you not start up a practice,
you can use parts of it you got your day in at one time specially with,
with mothers of young children you know the reading is essential for it are.

[26:42] Just keeping you call me and your kid is in appleton germ or something like that just keep your balance is.

[26:50] Starting your day with young natalie healthy try to start everyday with practice you know i and this is you know with with the time i have so i am in the tanning on one.

[27:03] My ass and get up and my not be that long but it's a practice does it just,
to kind of summarize for a listeners hear your saying don't necessarily will be consistent to start with you don't have to do these long ninety minute things just kind of like have a rhythm with it if you weld your also same the deep breathing very important specially with all these yoga poses,
and especially just for you you mention the paris sympathetic nervous system definitely doing good exercise of deep breathing no bringing your attention back to your breath.
That can be very helpful for increasing the function of your paris sympathetic nervous system.
And then the last thing i was hearing you say there was just so you know if you're a morning person or if it works well with your schedule you know maybe try to get it done first thing in the morning just so your starting your day in that,
add paris and pathetic state your rather than live in this like on my gosh stressed out fight or flight state is that kinda what your saying there.

[27:54] Absolutely awesome now i know we are talking in our preach at one point in terms of resources is there gonna be any kind of a resource or maybe a video that you can equip our listeners with yes,
i do have a website and is going to be i'm hoping by the time the stairs,
but people key and also reach me and i hate you have my la address get fit let dot com and that actually was a blog but i have started,
before any of my pregnancies i am and it was in general openness lol,
and i wrote through the pregnancies about pregnancy and i wrote through the loss about lice and and can't how darling you're really,
stuart how can get ass and in after the birth of my son and there's actually a post the night i have is the,
sleeping hospital after i delivered my daughter slots you still sort of in shock and i actually ended writing a blog post that night so that's kinda in there you,
are you now lost mom in a really wanna kinda ge at me more about bad and so there is actually a post.
Lena on yeah actually that are running aimlessly dollar fantastic again i just wanna go back to that have you heard of bernie brown laura in terms of the power of vulnerability,
yes am so i think you accomplish that i mean you deliver that really well so i want to encourage our listeners i definitely have laurens website which is just get fit let dot com and will have wings to that in the show notes as well.

[29:38] But laura if i could just remind you if you could send me a specific lank.
Or an email to that specific post your talking about where you know you are actually writing when you're going through it,
in the midst of all those experiences i think that would provide,
value and benefit to our listeners as well so just reminder about that and again remember everyone we are gonna have a dedicated web page at michigan family on the stock com,
where we will have all of the show notes that we've mention here today with laura.
And also you can expand tho chau notes right now on your mobile device if you're listening and you can take advantage of those clickable links.
Laura is there anything else that you'd like to share with our listeners weathers like a inspirational quote or an affirmation or use anything else that you liked,
the biggest thing is just know that you're not alone in a loss and the any type of lost silver.

[30:36] It's rare but not as rare easy thing and you know for me,
who is i think this is a round of disc in traveling.

[30:49] Freezer shame that doesn't mean be there so it's a you know if it here you know someone who's experienced miss currently or has it.

[30:59] No they're not absolutely fantastic were thank you so much for coming on the podcast.
And remember we can do far more together than you could ever do apart coming see you from beautiful.
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Transcript MFW 030 | Elevate Your Relational Health | Elise Carr

[0:00] Music.

[1:07] Have a healthy family despite living family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and.
Then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable because we have an amazing show for you today elise is a certified holistic.
Coach with on wavering enthusiasm fierce devotion and spirited inside.
Elise guys inspirational souls on a purpose driven passion filled mission.
Away from fear and dissatisfaction into courageous love and divine power.
Living life as their most authentic nursed and empower themselves taking a holistic,
approach to coaching beans police look set the whole thing on the nutrition under this is a deep dive into the well being of your entire life.

[1:56] Purpose passions relationships with self and with others alright families let's jump.
Welcome families to the interview portion of today's podcast my guest on the show today is no lease car welcome to the podcast elise it's so great to have you.

[2:12] Sorry try to think it over the counter very much for having him i'm excited to dive into a very interesting conversation have front license,
absolutely thank you so much again as well so lease i just want to take a step back for a moment and marvel at what's happening right now you're this nigger per nor health coach in australia and we're over here at the enough w recording studios in the states,
and we're creating were collaborating and were contributing value to the natural and alternative health care world,
this absolutely blows me away and i'm so glad that you were able to reach out contact me so that we can benefit our communities through our areas of,
spur tese sillies i know that you have a ton of insight and value to bring to our families today but before we head there i've just told our families a little bit about you as the professional,
but one of the core values here on this podcast is family so if you could tell us a little bit more about you as the person and what does family mean and look like for you.

[3:14] Aw that's such a guy question family super important and i must say is on he's had a pretty eclectic three i've spent a lot of my time of a say sorry it's been so report when i have been a white to tape in touch and,
boys remembering birthdays always say that father's day mother's day todd always did my grandparents a call and then when i am in the same city,
making special times special f it to terry beautiful banquet i'll off preparing healthy,
organic delicious food for my family of that's the hops pancakes sometimes a sunday or a massive dinner and actually preparing to have a one of a christmas,
and i'm a pot of stanley and some my family coming so i just quality time and sometimes it also just picking up a fight and just checking in and and hearing how they are i guess cuz part of my what is coaching my often get bit tessa that does a lot of listening and,
that to me is part of my connect with my family to is is being that person he can be there for them and,
yes my dad my siblings and my parents much is anyone else and that kind extended store this late my friendships amend my work,
dial directly amazing i just love everything your saying there and thank you for sharing that you know you mention quality time and.
I just reflect on my own marriage with my wives and often times we can be together but chill,
get off russia with me sometimes because i'm just not being present with her and so one of her love languages is like that quality time so she's like don't bother cleaning things up checking your e-mails or anything just be with me so i love that quality time mention there,
thank you for the that sorry nancy and i love that you're where these a lot of languages so great and that doesn't a.

[4:50] Can they and out in french it's not family teresa that's really important yes yes so we might even pick up that thought later on in the interview here but real quick another thing i love to say on the enough to view podcast is that we are smitten with the mitten,
so i just always ask my guests to share if they have anything they love about michigan i know it might be tough for you with being in australia well,
as you may have picked up looking at my son hit a chat i am a date what a baby i love what i nothing is this something about mother nature,
that i'm deeply text when i find that,
when i'm around what i feel very grounded if i come in i can reach out a side the fact that you have stays beautiful great lakes i.
Is sensational so i think that's a really beautiful part of the place that you guys cl hyun.
Awesome yeah i'm a huge fan of the great legs freshwater can be and i'm just kinda sad that the summer season this kind of dying down because there's just been some good times.
Out on the water there this summer so that i appreciate at least thank you for just get in touch with our listeners shipped here and connecting even on that international level so.
Props to you there will always let's go ahead and get more in depth on the episode today because i really want to win and,
the mothers and the families listening to get value from your expertise and your unique,
perspective what is your why what motivated you to create stella muses that said correctly,
yes elements and yeah what motivated you to become all these different resources for women and men to and what's the ultimate purpose that gives you energy when your feet hit the floor in the morning.

[6:26] Aw that's your cousin the one that the car i wanna questions that go ahead and pick one there and like it to help save,
my motivation to creating still news as well as day my mouses in,
communications and culture politics women studies and i have to create an original paste my jot dissipation the end and i wanted that basement tangible and practical and meet all these analysis and all the scenery,
date reset sorry i created sonny's as i originally and my cousin but stand him a chance fired and ins went,
on line platform like it on my neck measles and outcome of growing up all his more community and i always say there's plenty of articles and videos out there of the women and men families couples to enjoy in and take from what i will.
Dan i stories going to los question what kind might i turn spies need to get up in the morning.

[7:15] If the idea of being of service to me that's dies while we're here if i can,
i'mma make sure that i'm the as far as fishing of may festival mice cuz that is some form we can talk to that light out today in br pass that on and hold that spice in just,
office of directions and take anything it can even just be a small any walking down the street as letters came up with my clients but to get up and be at because reservation view to shine to shine your light was is others that may is.
Is patti's to live,
that's nice rest important thing absolutely i totally resonate with what you're saying i mean that's what we're all about at the michigan family won't this clinic as well you know is serving this community for us that looks like,
chiropractic care and nutritional therapies that i just love the way that primarily coaching i believe for you is the way that you serve your respective community,
and again just totally blown away that we can provide this school aberration to serve our respective communities for that purpose now going back to your coaching.
Kinda outline for a listener should what this coaching looks like do i have to be in australia to work with you or do you do things can i remotely are kinda talk faster how that works.

[8:26] Sure sorry,
no you definitely don't have to come all the way down on that i have clients who in the same city as me which isn't helping at the moment i have clients all around the country then i also have clients in the states in new zealand,
in your tag even in tonight to buy it like all different cities all different countries sorry,
no it doesn't matter and an even when i told beautiful thing it has like skype like we get to connect on a house that you can have still let incident one on one create that psycho spice create that beautiful environment and still do the tape work the and have to be in person sorry is that flexibility been on and i'll out that most clients limited because it,
you know we have very different lifestyles now,
mari creating that international platform makes a lot ac and bill can also gonna cuff if there hiring and they day of the need to be disobey children whatever it is so not since it creates more flexibility i built to be at work with the car to not work out,
and so again just to give our listeners ship and our families today more contacts than mourner standing could you kinda talk is there i know you're working with like men and couples but primarily women from my understanding,
can you kinda describe many of the frustrations are many of the reasons why some of these women would come to you for coaching our come to you to elevate their health and wellness.

[9:40] Sure sorry,
i work for holistic perspective and as i'm sure you're weight of the call holistic mains the hall so when not just talking about the food on the plate with to make exercise will also talking about,
emotional well-being doesn't equity in the sexual well being and can they would general day to day life i want to be looking into a,
everything will eric was sometimes we could be eating really healthily but i was found a regime that works to ask physically made with feeling gloomy with any cheap inns a pot of isn't,
is really clicking when not feeling motivated perhaps still are not feeling go away we have pappas set every will and then a couple at comes to me,
they may come for a reason the only start to borrow the day who realizes probably something else the seven day to loy that original concept that was in my mind and i like to work day and sometimes it may have noticed i've also got,
in anne and he missing back on which means we don't educate will not just a physical body level for sometime,
what why back and other times it is starting with the simplest as readjusting someone's lifestyle with the f eight.
We have a upright sometimes the way they speak to themselves and the people at spectrum and everybody makes i don't have a one size fits all very base but,
let's i love what you're saying i love that framework that you're laying down because i think so many people just assume that a lot of the coaching these days is diet and lifestyle and people may get discouraged when they try to do those things they make a lot of adjustments and corrections in those departments but then when they don't see the results that they're looking for they can get discouraged,
and i love that you mention there about the emotional component.

[11:14] I can definitely say that and my practice with a lot of my patience you know will address everything from a structural or from a chiropractor perspective get them in alignment physically you know with their vertebral with the,
spinal cord and their central nervous system is working right.
We've been using nutritional medicine to support those adjustments and help them hold longer but i find that unless we clear that a motion or turn rain those.
Neural emotional reflexes those psycho somatic reflexes making really be the final obstacle to cure that can prevent them from healing one hundred percent would you say that you've noticed something similar in your practice.

[11:51] Absolutely and this is why i as an example with me supply itself and sings on i may doing that kind of work to get out,
oil is having understanding that it's not enough just to do with the physical body like you said this is near logical as well it often starts at just the thought patterns,
the way we speak to ourselves internally that voice that we listen to and and lynette takeover times can't completely through applebee's off,
angelically emotionally and physically so flick just in the physical side what you said it is not enough we got a kind of marry apple hence the holistic approach to cover the or the spices and that's important from eighty to,
that's why i said we in that whole spice and everything is flowing through apple id not sense that means divine empowerment,
we've really coming from that spice of empowering ourselves from within not just externally,
gotcha so do you have like a specific method or assessment because from what i understand,
coaching with you it's not like you're just gonna take any warm body that contacts you or sends you an email or gives you a call on skype there's actually application process talks through them back,
well obviously people are going price around twelve sorry if they are very interested investing in themselves time wise emotionally physically financially all of the above i also wanna make sure the and the stand with it right now.
Where i believe that does it and how i can be of service and best in for the right feet because,
can re as you understand some clients to just add go along by then long time clients and others i'm out of pop you want and that's gonna say that again and you'll get to,
really in reaching norris they healing journey the me i really want people who wanna do that date suppression like that wanna completely overhaul the life of his estate work and not sign that said off to my house like writing i don't just wants.

[13:33] United big six or twelve month investment address of old united it's a bicycle with it sorry i haven't had a conversation,
i also then half of my time which is in ivi and i tell you that time to have a date of experience that i can feel into what it's like to work with me and that we ss from that,
what's the best next move but yeah rochester for my six it's gotta be the right of each and i have to be out to be as,
it with me as possible cuz then i get to meet them there the deep no i can't i'm on a stand in taking so they want a guy if that's right to make them,
to make it a bit what fantastic so what i can hear you saying there's this element of bio individuality that you really place high priority on is so you gonna evaluate and assess each client to reach man couple or woman.
On a case by case basis and really taylor your coaching to then specifically would you agree.

[14:28] Absolutely sorry teacher and to me that's that's the way i choose whatever works that way and i completely respect the having set programs and having go checklists but that's why let approach and perhaps its bit of the.

[14:40] Famine approaches well let them ask when cannot compartmentalize asian concept and more face flowing creative how's it gonna work for you today right,
and i resonate with that as well being a chiropractor i'm always going to do the adjustments or the corrections that that,
specifically needs and not just doing the same tire project adjustments on everyone that i see we have these methods of analysis we have these tools and techniques,
to be very specific to that person and their spinal vertebrae and their range of motion and also up to apply that to the nutritional medicine now,
just a can and get even more conceptual understanding from your lease as a chiropractor my tools in my techniques are gonna be that chiropractic adjustment.
And then supporting them with any kind of biochemistry weather that's medicinal herbs or a specific kind of whole food,
nutritional medicine or even like a homeopathic in a an alley this way.
Now if someone comes to you with maybe just a set of issues are some health concerns.
Can you kinda describe what are your tools what are your techniques like what are people gonna actually experience.
When they're working with you well that's really a question i can just give you an example like as of one passing of like a china pipe different pictures of.

[15:58] But initially obviously with we had that conversation for having a sending away their apts but they wanna come to minnesota next week that might have shifted sorry them i've already had that fight for their relationship another realizing it's with me.
To me no matter what first before mice i need to get a shift that that park is let at that i may have on the child on my time now back to them.

[16:20] Because once we have start now washing filling up the cart in all different ways with the self we gonna be great a service to my children to a partner and for women especially for months can the same as a selfish concept.

[16:33] But i like to call these the best three some ever,
the three relationships you boys need to be in half that's when he's with yourself and not means every single day is a non negotiable.
Five minutes fifteen minutes whatever it is that you could say that is just for your.
So i might need to go to get a little bit early out what's when the children are in bed oh it's when you coming to south and recently simple like maybe sister b of a cup of head will take it got and you just take a moment to,
any put some love into it and drink it down for meeting the.
Sorry yes that holistic yes it's nice in your body with water cuz i cafe not your taking some time to relax to reconnect but is you filling up your on top.
That is imperative.

[17:14] I'm in from day you going to the second relationship that talk about which you can call whatever tune i can next to you personally ice is the divine for you it can be called it can be spirit can be your highest vision to soak up the express version of you but taking time to connect a.
Where that mains.
Something in prayer and meditation on is i cannot going to a psychic spies that's a temple or church or just the party ovary we light a candle and just.
Being still and calm and quiet once again this may for just a couple of minutes we can both seriously from a couple minutes about how hectic our lives softly make this a commitment to just.

[17:50] Three then center know that something brand announce that also has outback that we can connect that we can ask questions all of that that we can open up the.

[17:58] And this is really expanded the net wide he understand that.

[18:01] Sometimes when we realize that these two relationships make pasco hole and if you combine that with a beautiful nourishing food with doing some exercise with saying positive things and and thinking part of me and mine it's of talking.
Crawley dress else can type that place of loving kindness and compassion in all things the day we then are in a better place of wrath that relationship which is,
without allotted with our children.
Without meeting with us family we don't interest rate into that the relationship and then get bent out of it frustrated come from places.
It got that have a drink myself today and here i am doing five thousand things ba which can easily create pain so this cup brings us back to that,
holistic approach of looking at things from all different angles is the price absolutely i just love your saying there especially about really taking care of yourself from that holistic perspective.
So that you can take care of your love ones your family and then be able to contribute more your community you know perform better at work.
And just be more present with your community and the people around you i can't stress enough and i can't underscore enough,
your saying so you no lease were just so connected these days our schedules are so busy you know we talked about finding time to schedule with your beloved with your spouse your partner,
but then we also talked a little bit about being present and being able to actually disconnect so that we can be present for that connection with them and.
We can go on and on and talk about stress levels and cortisol levels but.
Go ahead and talk to us about some of the techniques that you use with your clients in terms of getting them to actually disconnect and be more present with the people they love in their life.

[19:36] Alice is sample and thank you brings out of the kyle of.

[19:39] To me hi c with my clients and as he said your in our relationships to beat divinely empowered tests and i feel we need to learn to disconnect from everything that's,
draining energy what we say in the sign ice because it is so fast paced me on site literally connected in the wrong way sometimes with got,
find in our hands with cover my controls is always something on this is no ways it's like we're living in that is constant,
stimulation and what does this take us away from the present moment takes a wife not quality connection with ourselves festival mice and then without love ones that children what in whoever and and what if that spouse to pay side,
one of the simplest things you can jerry is at a certain time of day when you public company of from work of wrapped up your diamond capacity to turn off your find weight is put on salas not be checking it.
Every five seconds old is gravel headless social feta looking to get a mouse and i leave that behind,
and stott disconnecting from that weldon coming into the space of your heart named in it or that gathering you're going to i'm really present really start connecting this is like it i connecting really holding that space paying the lease now.
Getting someone the time and call it that they made and likewise you the ipad receiving that from someone who's gonna reciprocate a printed fine down,
turn the television off and other one is not having like i pad so final televisions in the bedroom this seems crazy to some people that like i you for real right yeah,
there is no wire at a patel was my bedroom there's no way i find going that it's just it's a non negotiable that i have with my beloved.

[21:15] And this way cakes that special spice in it for you you minus the precise in a kitchen of allow james when,
you cautioned family nail it's just some nice music in your present who made in the lounge during the might be music on and set the television c final xp you but will have to disconnect a little bit from the stimulation,
to reconnect to each other absolutely no for me what it looks like as a gang give honorable with the families listening it's like i have the office that i see patients in all day and then i come home and.
In my mind i'm thinking okay i'm leaving work but the reality is my phone my mobile device i just use it so much during the day actually for work stuff like i'm not.
I'm there playing angry birds are you now doing all these games or anything but i'm actually like checking email sending things business related stuff and.
The reality is i bring that phone home,
and subconsciously it's like i could be working on my business or i could be working on something that's gonna be related to work,
or the office and then that's not serving the time that i'm with my wife so i really appreciate those tips you just laid out for us yeah whatever ladies for you because as an example my practice,
he is at the front of my harm and says i need to got as a somewhat close that door and that is it.
And i make a committed myself to not to check my email list for some reason i'm anticipating is super important life changing and how from that happens let's be real,
there's no way i'm gonna be checking that yeah sorry it's also making little promised locust yourself that you got on because you can't lie to yourself you know when your stepping up and doing what i can you know when.

[22:48] When did not have absolutely now lisa kinda mention some practical applications are ready you talked about taking some time for yourself in the morning are,
honestly one of you can during the day having some of that herbal tea do you have anything else specifically in terms of practical ways for the women the mothers and the families listening today,
to elevate their wellness nurse there body and nurture their family yeah absolutely,
once again this means taking time for you to even to sit with and and find out with yourself what lights you up,
what's in it and want to live,
what makes you feel energized and for some people that's taking dot cost made it pottery made its going for a swim and what ever it is that you can do and ideally your activity that brings you joy were talking about.
That feels like you're investing in yourself having something.
Just break away from the normal died i retain away from working and everyone that you know we might could even find new friends twenty socks on the twenty alright might be going tonight for jog around the lake.

[23:56] What ever that is having something that becomes sacred like or non negotiable really you value in that and i'm not letting that face white,
when sign that unite if you are not in a relationship with your partner husband boyfriend.

[24:12] What ever it is sometimes scheduling i click the second session a special time with your beloved because believe such a hectic crazy lifestyle.
That him in my along time ago by any have actually had an intimate connection with it with y'all lol sorry sometimes shade laying i like to say at least two hours if this is possible is not a big house but just right out there,
you know you to it to hot sunny in some what quality loving time however that looks for,
because we need to take that connection if you wanna function of the tame if you want to be a strong united front for your children orders for yourself whatever your situation is you need to invest in a relationship to me because we often,
can i keep doing out in prize and investing alegria children but with the get,
ass sells individuals with a get out as unity couple in marriage without units sorry that is super important because all the healthy food in the well at all the delicious as always things on the in.
Cannot function as that is lia's as they have the power to do like a passage do if your class stepping up and made a pot when doing the work as well,
you know i couldn't agree more here elise unitas really appreciate all the value and the wisdom and insight that you're bringing to the podcast today just getting va honorable with our listeners and our families hearing i can completely relate to what your saying,
you know my wife and i we do need to schedule a time to be together and sometimes really good at it sometimes we kinda fall short but i do find that the times when we do,
schedule that quality time no back quality time like we're talking about earlier.

[25:42] And just to reconnect is when were the most and you talked about having that united front and that's just such a,
big component to your health and wellness lifestyle it such a big component your family your kids notice when you know mom and dad are both in sync on the same page,
and i bet that you could say that the women that you coach they experience increased levels of productivity better focus all of these benefits when,
they are united with their beloved as well their partner their spouse its archery concept especially for a woman if she is gonna relax and feel,
sife in a relationship i mean like in my should my spirit lease actually not just like i would not getting a divorce i mean that i mean really feel hell in the relationship she needs to be sane and head and and for her man to have a lot of whole that spice for,
so this is a little bit of a don'ts and i don't like it much the the terra care in and talk about you know a.
Total accident that of skills hope it does have an understanding that we have these different energies in different dynamics and i both need to be on it we need all sorry,
understand that in in order for this to happen all without,
love relationships be flowing and how my niece we need come from places like loving kindness and compassion is cutting eleven is that he said you're finding out your blood how your partner likes to feel loved like to say likes to held.
We need a stop and shop in those ways to in the eye interest say fat sometimes sometimes when find how to say cuz i always giving,
set naturally night just if your mother it kinda comes right out of place i yet we need to give and receive in hominy and so we definitely have that with your beloved with your pot with.

[27:20] Husband or wife whatever it is fantastic now these before we wrap things up for today were there any resources whether those be books podcasts websites on line articles,
that were impactful for you or that you would direct the listeners the families listening today to elevate their family wellness yes that's,
i guess one person has been really influential in my life and i've done some some training with what she office is caroline may snap pieces bringing in that more,
energetic and at spirits i guess almonds to the holistic lifestyle if.

[27:53] Interests you anyone away that morning to you all your life then i'd be looking at caroline mace as for my work a,
if it's an intercept calling you than stellar news dot com is my website at the bottom of my my main page that you can sign up and get my free a book which is a principle and you can start doing some pract,
to cool kind of soul enriching lifestyle enriching empowerment work for your a and you might find that my stephen lee is gonna have a domino effect into your relationship,
with your entire family and and the way shop in life that's also important and you can listen to my other part casson tv and radio appearances if you carry testimonies dot com,
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