Transcript: MFW 029 | Dr. Cass Part 2

New Dr. Cass Part 2

2018, Dr. Kyle Wallner
Michigan Family Wellness

Dr. Kyle passionately serves the Michigan community at the Michigan Family Wellness clinic where he specializes in pregnancy, pediatrics, and family wellness care.


[0:00] Music.

[1:06] Best way to have a healthy family is by living a family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family,
then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable because we have an amazing show for you today i'm excited because today we have a very special interview actually.
Two with dr robert casts if you missed part one i encourage you to visit michigan family wellness dot com,
and catch the first half of the interview which will give you the proper context for today's discussion.
On the benefits and value of homeopathic medicine for family won't,
alright families let's jump into today's interview the response from medical doctors don't know what's wrong but we can't,
fix this and you know that's unacceptable in today's age of healthcare and there are alternatives available for people and that's what i wanna be able to communicate or going back to okay so another framework here for you.
In the same way that people recommend working with their local farmers so that they know where their beef is from a weather chicken is from and they know it's rass fed organic all that and they know where the sources okay i like in that,
to using conceptually of course to using the homeopathic from physical because here's the thing.
I'm talking you're listening to families you're listening to the formulated the creator of this entire line so.
The great thing is if i have a question.
All i have to do is send an email or call dr cast your and say hey what's going on with this have you ever seen this before and that kind of relationship that kind of trust is why.

[2:45] I'm so loyal to this kind of physical medicine this kind of physical healing another question here for you doc on,
a lot of supplements you can look at the ingredients and let's say it's a whole food supplement,
and it says alright this supplement has buckwheat or this supplement has beetroots you can understand that can they can list their amounts and all that but i guess help families understand help even other healthcare practitioners who might be listening understand.
What is it mean when it says on some of the physical supplements.
Adrenal at a five acts or missing time at a six x nine x six ch like what is that mean can you explain that.
Yeah or have the worlds he in your home remedies relay hoping the ingredients.

[3:34] Super helpful when you take a ingredients are are getting angry as you.
Runs well on your right right lol and see the ingredients,
need a birthday right to actually work with him,
can you ask me to be working but the doctors recently and you just pull off or go take this is it may not know you have to work with the dog was up saying three hundred.

[4:11] Because when ready to see my lil the right frequency.

[4:18] And ruthie retiring ricky the whole or when you matching what's going on the.

[4:28] Your labs are all is is designed like you can find your man for like half of the it works when you actually find the right one is ready,
One time and rushing little or what would be the old me know how do you are here because you are the whole,
you are holy and friends and in are working if you have a question,
you should be able to call a ratchet washing his heels coming your something tommorrow talking people rushing things together,
you can call me and i will answer you will do what you got before stations in the shop.
Really i have farmers and people world room is beautiful.
Natural ingredients which i take my mortgage and bills many my channels and the really groovy ingredients to plant shutdowns is full of terrible.
Yes we are beautifully prepared.
Where i can you marker by people on there no worries in this.
Love amazing people and what are your work together and small businesses.

[5:59] My dog is having a year so that you can call me to call john the togetherness.
My name is phoebe will get better,
range do you know how to make in ten years and wonder what where when why are you so well you have the right to see,
what could be the topic so this is really what time,
no in russia and please do you have absolutely and just kinda dove tail off at five.
Going back to your point of working with a doctor working with someone who really understands what they're doing you can really send yourself,
into a healing crisis or you can give yourself am i as am or something you know if if you take the wrong remedy or the wrong medicine at the wrong time it's like why would you do chemotherapy and radiation if you don't have cancer like,
that's that's gonna be harmful for you so what i'm saying is it's like if you don't need to take something then you should it take itself,
again what is why working with a dr that has some sort of objective method of testing not just always just try this and whatever works now again back to the sourcing you know so a lot of people look for like,
non gmo organic labeling all of that i know that everything is approved by health canada but can you tell us more about the sourcing like when it says adrenal or when it says pituitary or thyroid.

[7:33] Can you tell us more about that rumor the whole who are.
The name and how many how you were gone or how do.
No much you can do whatever she wants in my hand is going to,
one for the has a plan you actual do when no ones it was.
Beer disease that you were when we when on.
Are you like for which helps people with your friends your answer tomorrow to work already broken that program gr so,
the adrenal our home for help with a be working or just installed new happy version.

[8:30] Who is having preparation of the adrenal glands are.

[8:34] Hello hi drill find directions to looking for the real home happy she was which has a really three to find that right one.
I want to see your work organization to work for a patient to help me and was on a virus.
Are there plans in the higher you where he.

[9:03] That would even be considered a vegetarian or vegan preparation is that right because it's it's not the gland itself like it's not animal tissue it's the secretions or it's the it's from that healthy go in.

[9:17] Will it depends on were going out for a couple if people are in for in quotation marks.
This year our will not be to me in money and is not here.
How where can you call me one or the.
So there is because the are bringing hey from the adrenal glands.
Who are the when you have a room with your is actually doing well.
What the hell dilution pretzels is not paying your visual real ran in the ingredients.
We can which we are when we're vibration when they are so how do you randy.
Depending on what a person's definition of dating might be you that.
Yeah of the point of so much misinformation out there every all the running about this and that and how to talk about,
where are we began our conversation about home having an asian holy how innovations,
where is full.
Bullshit harvest movie on true or whatever saturday is how o do what.

[10:51] Julio how are they the same thing that were made to the city of can happen at work who exactly are you driving,
to go after the treasure of that scene what is your taxis in this one thing all over.
What is the weather.
So we and they the only the you haul prophylactic brody needs to be.

[11:23] Bring me at three thirty of hot white.
You want to remove the hard about how on the,
in love love to books and there are for information out there that you have dr are you guys is.
I hope you are we all you got all in his family are in every situation or what you didn't understand what's going on.

[11:56] Absolutely sure that her mentally,
absolutely and you know what most families of people listening to this episode this podcast they just want to spend more time with their own families and they want to contribute more to the world around them and increase their performance at work they really want,
to know that the person they're working without a trust that person to get those to getting the results of their looking for,
in the shortest amount of time with the most cost effective use of resources back to what you were saying about the right potency i love what you've written about the balance between to start code po and c's i love what you've written about the six ch z specially and under no code i've used that per,
personally and i just want everyone to know as well my family uses the physical remedies we completely embrace everything that we've talked about here so from the podcast and,
i just wanted to highlight that within homeopathy principles as you've written about dr casts a four ch in the five ch potency is.
Are typically used first in military fax why seven ch and the nine ch i know there's these different,
potent season like your saying if you do if you have the wrong potency if you do these things at the wrong time the wrong level the wrong sequence.
You're gonna mess yourself up and so that's why i love the six th start code.
Potency because that really balances nurses repairs rather than pushing it one way or another.

[13:25] The fourth one hundred are the.

[13:29] How you the great father who the husband is your business my hair are.
He was really hard and come on or what was to.
From time to time to read and then he's will definitely have to pay to go very very.

[13:52] Was you are rules is it is it okay to back home when the hell.
Really do what the fucking what to do home remedy room right where oh where,
what is your problem and there is no one thing and one thing is so beautiful who.
What is it removed all hold your.
What a beautiful helping are you know who called the beautiful world where all of our television watching you with a hundred more so when she vote.

[14:41] Alright contraindications or when you working with all the way.
You are really tiny one when she will need a job you all of you are so when we're not sure all in all.

[15:00] Is there a job tell you already know.
How would you use when we were doing how to send a taxi.
Will we know asking why tashi this movie hold you the whole are pretty well presently everyone and the everything.

[15:25] Do you have new radiator for your time and your money for this up so,
i want you to bring that here because we were working with the ready people say what are you are fishing boat for what i am sure.

[15:46] How are the world is.
Did you know what it is you who are you buying a car what would please you haha to he she this and,
are you all ready know what to leave what do red spots just in,
what's line i push or even just,
yeah or even just to pick up right where we left off maybe you need to just do some clean the slate maybe you have to do a complete body reset even before your ready for that healing or even before you're ready for chiropractor and i just love what you're saying it so in line with just the chiropractic floss it's not like anything i'm doing,
is directly causing that person to get better to heal.
It's just removing the interference removing the obstacles to care so i guess that's why i really just love working with physical and this company,
this family raise companies because everything is just so in line we can go and talk about residence and,
concordance which can you know go off into a whole another direction but that's where i really feel these two avenues these you channel is really align well we'll dr cass i do want to ask you about,
practical application so,
again let's say we have some people listening today we have some families we might even have some healthcare practitioners for a listening what can people start doing today in their own lives at home.

[17:19] Where is the woman who is you have to go to the doctors using the internet over the counter and on the days this time we're got when can you lose.
Yeah grandfather all i have great friends like rash or is my garage door.
Not sure why not sure who is the.
I don't like to have three jobs all over the place here so were his new website running professional,
i would you have to be a licensed practitioner certified going on cashier over her is has he use,
yeah she is the one for you get to where you want me to look at the website is at the wrong ph,
what is the weather in your bed how what will you do when you have you,
what were the people you.

[18:32] Yes how did you lose their fucking having clean hey you're and will not turn over in his.
Can i do that this coming friday and i think this is how you more for messages that i might use your vacation he will it all,
to you too dark is that are room worker whole story show your initiation was.
And practice to over the wind more will you work and before available why.
I want to program my.

[19:19] Wondering why they will it take away your pain in the car and then just let me.
The cold hands and the ball what do it in one and what are the was for sale in to.
i really fancy will be rental right now we have and how angry will always be your picture sitting here and who are.
Are you doing okay you.
Are you in or where you from where to where to go for this and is back,
i want to watch this morning when you got her work to your degree hotter.
Coming around over overages job security on a jeep grand.
And have the money i'm gonna.

[20:28] What i'm writing reason i'm not including people all programs here which is very helpful.
I'm into older three way to hot water handle.
Conscientious they were and what is now what what today and after you use your energy is are they were all,
where where on how you,
where are the alarms do you know were your mother's house when.
You are gorgeous no tires are no longer.
What will the wasn't being,
what do you say when in use to you always for your car and your tires and you need to take to get you all hot,
you're nutritional health care hope you will you to your,
meeting point would help is not working how are you hungry hold my reminders,
where can you are the one that you on the when your about number begins to,
yeah program does not helping our people to take a look at your best.

[21:59] Look for during the unit he can have my share and you are one hundred dietary position also you,
you re in the hallway to you we find the things do change your your your whining lol.
Hey how are you and you can here is your do you feel more hole in your life you.
Which is the great blessing to you personally and hanley hundred with you and your.
Exactly and just use another analogy with restoring cellular communication pathways i can use like a sports analogy are training allergy know if you're gonna come to,
performance likely at a high level you have to do your basic fundamentals you have to go to spring training you have to do that foundational work.
And i always like to say that success is neither magical nor mysterious success is the consistent application,
of the basic fundamentals so especially for those really tough cases or those you've tried everything are you've been,
i've been to every specialist in your area if you haven't done this kind of work where the cells actually have to communicate with one another electrically neurotransmitters doing this foundational work really,
can be such a critical and imperative component.
Before you even start opening the case and doing the specific causal chain where do you have to really establish a foundation with the cellular communication pathways from the gecko also i'm glad you brought that point doc and i gladly.

[23:39] Thank you absolute worst in what you know were talking about we're talking about moving beyond what will most that's right that's right now while room and,
hello iv helpful but you format it is taking longer injury and how long is,
it's not where the thread that winds on for her shortened when there people are getting hurt is john,
and is what should i buy for are.
Hello was the disease civilization always do you have are just in,
what will you see the world and now using will lower the flags situation where,
june so we're talking today three r,
when i don't live in the big white house press this has what world you,
no longer here and how is to change the.

[24:48] Will dr cass are coming up and the time limit that we have here for today is there anything else that any other message that you once and the people listening or the families listings to really take home as a result of your and your message on today's podcast any like words of affirmation or insights or advice or anything that,
you are not designed these you're not going to be healthy in body and mind and heart.
Your going to the revelation of life for with her in all living things now like for you and bonnie mind and heart you will feel when.
Great showing in your life was where you got it so much and love your service in your house for a few.

[25:41] Powerful words there dr casting so much if you're listening to this families and you're resonating with this message from dr cason myself here,
if you feel like you've experience some of the things that we've talked about and shared today i want to highly encourage you to head on over to michigan family wellness dot com.
And schedule a complimentary phone consultation where we can begin a dialogue on how to best approach and elevating.
You're a health and wellness and remember will have a dedicated web page with all of the show notes that we've mentioned here.
At michigan family won the stock combo have to the physical website will have links to where you can learn more about dr cason physic dr cass thank you so much for coming on the podcast today.

[26:25] Hey stop on the,
alright fam is what you think remote to get your feedback if you would like to email me about anything you've heard on this or any previous edition of the family wellness lifestyle podcast,
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Transcript: MFW 028 | Dr. Cass Part 1

 New Dr Cass Part 1

Dr. Kyle passionately serves the Michigan community at the Michigan Family Wellness clinic where he specializes in pregnancy, pediatrics, and family wellness care.

2018, Dr. Kyle Wallner
Michigan Family Wellness

Dr. Kyle passionately serves the Michigan community at the Michigan Family Wellness clinic where he specializes in pregnancy, pediatrics, and family wellness care.


[0:00] Music.

[1:05] Greatest asset that's would have a healthy family is by living a family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing,
affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable,
because we have an amazing show for you today,
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for the past forty plus years dr robert cass has been dedicated to the continuing advancements in the field of bio energetic medicine,
his highly acclaimed natural remedy line in innovative events worldwide have grounded advances in this dynamic field.
With evidence based strategies clinical skills and effective natural protocols.
Doctor has founded the academy of international bio energetic sciences to provide essential resource for forward thinking practitioners.

[2:35] To expand their clinical experiences dr gas helps other dr stay ahead of trends and advances in this fast growing field while simultaneously,
remaining true to the legacy from this natural healing arts approach as americas.

[2:50] He is also the founder and formula for the physical line of nutritional medicine and homeopathic remedy.

[2:57] Alright families let's jump into today's interview walking families to the interview portion of today's podcast my guest on the show today is dr robert cast welcome to the podcast doc it's so great to have you.

[3:10] How we replace so dr cass i just can't thank you enough for your time today you've had an incredible healing impact on so many people worldwide.
That we could literally be here all day and still not accomplished a proper introduction proportional,
to your contributions to the natural health.
I can't wait to dive in and talk about how homey out of the natural medicine and frequency healing,
can bring benefits and value to the families listening in today but before we head there dr cass i've just told our families a little bit about you as the professional.
But one of the core values here on this podcast is family so could you tell us more about you as the person and what does family mean or look like for you.

[4:02] Where is the hammer hustling.

[4:06] When i was young boy my parents used so hard the pro version for overtime is killing twenty.
In park when the your childs or always has back here now.
And in good standing to hey have an.
You wrote to your home is the new.
And the most pay shaw wrote all is well family was most important and are you bored bored of water.
So we are here and will hold for you to use gold one zero.
And how are you doing now are you were in the summer.
Are you open for two am having and what should go to be where is and.
No my name is on.
That's fantastic and is so loved that component of you know just working with physical it really is a family company like you mentioned it was false,
a great pleasure and an honor to you know meet with and work with crystal and yourself back in santa barbara at the last second korean twenty fifteen so.

[5:36] Those are just fond memories that i have of the holes is a gun cory experience so when will,
awesome so yeah another thing i love to stay here on the michigan family wellness podcast is that we are smitten with the mitten so i always ask my guests to share what they love about michigan now i know that you mention london ontario,
which isn't too far away a lot of people commute either across the bridge are under the tunnel you have anything any insights or loves about the state.

[6:05] What you what good is good and he is your check will probably eight or nine years old and.
Mail the money ontario sure shot on sunday.

[6:24] When ball in the room is more than the one where the battery on monday.

[6:33] Lower than it is seven volkswagen beetle what head are in my rover why,
driving in a really awesome or what the then or not because it's always wonderful when you are doing,
great time my parents tomorrow,
how married if that's definitely really beautiful this time year how were the weather is just starting to break or getting out of that human sheets were kinda in that,
nice fall temperature the leaves are gonna start changing your soon some beautiful fall colors not as perfect as you know california out there in santa barbara but.
It's nice for a little variety every now and then so i appreciate what is what is a head of our was ordered and again,
they're all seventy three degrees that's right that's right in my trash,
so dr gas let's go ahead and get more in in death because i really want the women mothers and families listening to get the value from your expertise and unique perspective,
okay so let me set up a framework here for you dock the ultimate question then i'm gonna get to eventually is,
what makes physical homeopath x unique and why should families work with a dr.
Who understands the art science and philosophy to cultivating healing and restoration okay but before i just go there i want to set up a framework okay so let's say you have a family of four hundred so you have like a mom dad and two kids.

[8:10] And they're just stressed out of their minds you know especially during this back to school season,
but the thing is mom and dad don't wanna use draw,
to keep them healthy and prevent illness and injury obviously as a chiropractor and many of my patients no chiropractic adjustments or the fine tuning of your central nervous system those two mins,
are profoundly beneficial for expressing health and boosting immunity but we also need to support the body from a bio chemical and or homeopathic approach and that's where i feel.
The homeopath x and the matrix nutritional zt the nutritional medicine,
from physical really shine okay so to be very clear you know supplements have been around for a long time homeopath x in home now but the the thing around for a long time so here's the question,
what makes physical homeopath x unique and why should families work with a dr,
that understands again this art science and philosophy of cultivating healing and restoration.

[9:14] Where are the question mark and what is it or very very very very well were here.

[9:26] What's the occasion you absolutely must work with the darker one understands will understand can we,
will then work their hands were present to.
How crappy is calling what that is not as ark or call john other people do we instruction.
Vanilla and emotional things but only with her or lens and now,
you are there.
So we're talking understand you have a great three there's an ass rocking my day.
Time for won't charge for someone just weekend warrior hope your weekend is that is the wine.
What was that will be all you are is your is lol morning anybody anymore,
my whole yeah what is in our ass was.
Factor which is crippling what day and what he will allow.
Where are the journey to take to my career or have a picture working is in the year.

[10:59] When he is working is the start button yeah where are you what is,
what you have to say we were from the airport waiting for the okay in what is sometimes.
I'm truly hundred minus zero nine is he is the yellow.
Is that where you when you are.
Are are worker gotcha i love everything you saying you your really laying down the value i thing for families from,
but just to help people understand further as well and correct me if i'm wrong here dock but the way i almost think about this from a conceptual from that thirty thousand foot view if you will that perspective is like i said,
there's been homeopathic there's been supplements there's been nutritional medicine around for a long time so,
again back to what makes this different then all the other stuff out there so lots of things i mean you could be here all day but.
One of the things that i really wanna communicate to families is let's say you bring your tool belt.
To a job site for example okay like let's say you're working in construction or you're a carpenter okay you're gonna bring your hammer and your saw,
if you're gonna work as a carpenter you know work with what you're gonna use your hammer with nails and you're gonna use your side with that would that have a concept okay.

[12:29] What i find at least in my office and my practices that we've been using the same tools.
In modern people or we've been using all tools on the modern people and what i'm finding is that these old tools.
There are some times working or they're getting a job like half-done like not not completely hundred percent.
And so when i started using a lot of the physical remedies to physical nutritional medicine the homeopath six.
I found that this these were the new tools this was the new tool belt to finally fix these people,
who had been searching for healing and restoration and who haven't been able to find anywhere else does that make sense or will the group ahead when you were saying was well.
Yo you have a hamburger because you were exact.
Hey good water hole is where we will leave it.

[13:30] You are so environmentally as.

[13:34] We have dinner and the muzzle your me a,
what is your name james darker or he's but hurt parsons rd in.
Happy you're today are not natural or normal to the color which warm.

[13:58] How do you know which is today up on the green or what are in today.

[14:07] What are your hours on my two girls.

[14:12] We have to start with the nj we have is not moving the picture is book for,
what is it now or where does matter that the is a year complimentary,
hers hair increase.
You are my rollers or coffee when on an increase to lowes.
What is yours is is,
that was the yeah every other on the ass,
what are the lower the hammer are there will.
We have been so what the brandywine will happen and was,
are you where you are today.
What are you the girl coltrane happy hours a person has condition.

[15:26] What do you have a landlord.

[15:30] What's already got this condition where is working over seven years so what is,
there's a whole chain at work that the guy in blue shoes and red nation where tradition for.
They are in the dryer you were coming is firing with a physical birth abortion lasted was the room are,
we have our are having her old schoolgirl were.
Or burning weather leaving for is hot and which you do this to happen to hold.
Is there any i know this car is all she wants where she at your hair and her users.

[16:33] Absolutely and i wanna just a wreck families i'm gonna drop the link in the show notes here doctor cast for the families listening,
actually we had derek weber on michigan family wellness episode nine where we talk a lot about a little bit similar to what we're talking about here you know that the,
the benefits and value of these homeopathic these remedies and i wanted to share with you a story kind of a personal story and i'll get invulnerable with our audience here to,
so my wife actually works for a hospital company she work for bone here in michigan and if you work for any hospital really if there's often a policy where you have to get a flu shot are you have to get,
some kinda immunizations and so we found that using the homeopathic remedies from physical,
really supported that whole process of detox if eyeing and draining that flu vaccine and those immunizations from her body like she had no side effects no symptoms she still doing great.
And other than you know just the technician poking her little bit hard with the needle that there was no what residual side effects and you know a lot of people do you still get the flu after getting the flu shot and like you said with kids,
you know their immunizations are bombarded with all these candles so early on in life and it's like okay what do we do like as a health care practitioner as a chiropractor is like,
what do i do with that yes adjustments yes chiropractic but there's this overwhelming signal from those vaccines it really overwhelms that.

[18:04] Person's nervous system so what do you know there's been a whole food nutrition that's great there's that herbal nutrition that's awesome too but.

[18:12] What i really find works well are these homeopathic that help with the bio energetic signaling letting the nervous system not only identify those toxins and those things that they have to clear out.
But then also drain them out through the lymphatic strain them out through those elimination channel's.
I mean vaccine talks drainage will you the lymph remedies those have been so paramount to my white self and to my chiropractic practice as well would you agree with all that,
hey there.
You're the hero we are having here is what happened he is holding a heart on your is asia in the same.

[18:55] Send to the hunger is new england's going on the market using the term.
How to turn on hall had a working car is setting up your new articles on.
Who was the inventor you now this is a very important cause the job can hear the lock on it somewhere in ohio,
hey congratulations we doing what was on want you language how my hair harlem jazz more years later are,
what was due last year will there is room in the running where in danger of hot which was laughing.
I usually have the drainage detoxification is all.
We need a book of our solar energy in there is over three a,
we are not important please send this would be working after things you have said,
what medicines or supplements you you are assaulted can the ball,
will the mobile area are there they will understandable global.

[20:31] What are the person and what did you do,
the program used for patients who have been that i had to,
that were impossible for there is the year you that how and where you are who.
The acceleration of the solution is one of the you know where there are you can we do for the hell,
the installation action will who are you.

[21:11] Also come in and will not officers over to where you will wall who are not yet,
the last year you names is james now actually find what longer use and is in your travels,
so all she and removal.
On the road is mark there are many to call in our back where,
or runs fantastic talking i know you're throwing out a lot of technical information here so i just really,
no that's fine i wanna just make sure people to really understand so i honestly to you know if people have questions about this feel free to email me dr kyle owner,
add juno dot com and you were talking about causal chains and now were talking about some complex things here but i really think people,
are gonna find this helpful people are gonna find this valuable because the response from medical doctors we don't know what's wrong or we can fix this you know that's unacceptable in today's age of health care and you know there are alternatives available for people and that's what i wanna be able to communicate,
alright families we're going supplies here for today but make sure to sync back up with the enough to view podcast next week,
where we will continue our conversation with master from me later dr katz i just want to drive home this major component for concept.

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This is called bio individuality and it's at the core of what we do every day at the michigan family wants to,
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Interview Transcript With Bill Shaddle

Bill Shaddle

Dr. Kyle passionately serves the Michigan community at the Michigan Family Wellness clinic where he specializes in pregnancy, pediatrics, and family wellness care.

2018, Dr. Kyle Wallner
Michigan Family Wellness

Dr. Kyle passionately serves the Michigan community at the Michigan Family Wellness clinic where he specializes in pregnancy, pediatrics, and family wellness care.


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[1:06] Best way to have a healthy family is by living a family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family,
then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable,
because we have an amazing show for us today till shadow has expertise in taking complex nutritional topics and explaining them in clear easy to understand raise kids developed,
workshops and training programs on dozens of different health and nutritional topics,
in this coauthor of the acclaimed nutritional masters for series still is currently the senior director of strategic development formatted janet's,
where he uses his back ground and knowledge to help translate science into practical application for the healthcare practitioner alright families what welcome bill,
walking families my name is dr kyle were coming to you live from the michigan family wellness clinic today and our guest on the show today is bill shadow welcome to podcast bill it's so great to have you,
awe thank you some of the kroger bluetooth for this.

[2:08] Really and so bill as you know this is the michigan family wellness podcast hours ask our guests to questions first of all,
tell us a little bit of what family looks like for you.

[2:19] That's a good question i put it on two levels first family is my immediate family which is my wife and i are dark we don't have kids we treat our dog is if you are a family member which is.
What a pathetic i know that but what,
and in the second is a broader family which includes my friends and acquaintances is the functional medicine can,
yes that's very rough family and i do,
think of a very much a family i'm so glad you mentioned that um brought that up first of all thank you for sharing about your own family there but then that's how we got connected i heard you speak at a seminar gosh feels like over year ago now i'm just so thankful and grateful to have you on the,
i guess they thought yes talk about a microbe i'm before we get there tell us real quick what do you love about state of michigan,
what happened i live in california now and i am convinced that i really miss the midwestern several things about the west end and right now it's early april and you guys are just coming out of winter.
But i am gonna miss the seasonal changes i miss when spring starts to appear and miss when.

[3:27] You know the first snow fall turns everything beautiful pristine white i'm is that,
the summers and fall when the trees change in michigan absolutely represents the prettiest lot of time in michigan i just love.

[3:40] Awesome brilliant love it thanks so much again bill we can talk all day about california i was out in san francisco and.
That was beautiful sound but hey what's actually jumping and get a new army it's just conversation for today,
as we're talking about in our presure this can really go down several different rabbit holes but let's try to conceptualize this for people so,
what were talking about today families is the microbe i am so the diversification or perhaps lack there of the quality of the,
got microbes that are in our got we know from the literature that we have over a hundred trillion bacterial cells.
And as components of that there are the dogs if you will there's also the bad bugs.
And so now bill can you just gonna start off with perhaps maybe just like an overview of the functions now we're talking about digestive,
and you and all these different things that no transmitters the gut brain axis let's just start there.
Okay first of all the the the sixty thousand with you if you miss.
I've been in the field of functional medicine for a long time most of my adult career track and it wasn't all that long ago in my living agree that most gastroenterologist to the gi tract is as.
The repository of waste materials to lower gi talk about about as the storage area of waste materials and on its on his way out of the bottom.

[5:08] And the bacteria that live there were just there,
and dusty were neutral at worst their potential threats to our existence that url and that has been almost a hundred eighty degree turnaround since that time the past,
how can a fifteen years maybe twice as more and more people began to study the microbiology which is defined as the bacteria that live in us,
and on us and particularly the guest room transfer my mobile.
Which is the box to live in our digestive track in your justice is fresh battery when you think about it because there's many more of those bacterial cells in our cells in our body.
And in fact if you,
one of the one of the perspectives this gaining ground now is to consider the microbiology as a.

[6:02] Nine is just a colony of bacteria but actually got her of an industrial important part of our just,
i'll rather than looking at us as discreet from the marker bio scientists are beginning to think that the micro bio actually makes a part of our existence that we should be viewed as a composite of us,
and all of our host cells cells born with and then the bacteria,
and there own dna and if you look like that ninety nine percent of the dna that has an impact on our bodies and our justice more health,
ninety nine percent of from these bacteria so.
The the police is bacteria just are there and that they don't really matter one way or another it's is almost.

[6:53] And interestingly one of the first people to.
Draw attention to that was researcher at the university of illinois named abigail sell yours and in her.

[7:05] Her interests come from what was happening at the time she began looking at the switch is in the early nineties right around the first anthrax scare,
and that is what people are using antibiotics indiscriminately to control their fear of exposure to answer each will wait a minute because she was one of the sinuses right above us government,
two to report about this and she said no women because the battery that were killing off maybe not such a good idea,
me be thinking about what good things are that they do for us and then with the ability to do easy dna testing,
and you know mapping of a fecal material affect your that are in our got we're learning so much more about,
the sum what we we are never shop now f six thousand thirty were coming to the where's the battery are the import and probably without them we couldn't survive,
and i think those are great points i mean especially when you consider all the plethora of literature that comes out of you do a literature search on pot matter even google for example just,
even if you punch me got or intestine from your ability which is literature terminology there's just times ensure that comes up.
Yeah that you know where can talk about your here today so it's no one thing i like is again there is,
met a generous like that they promote is,
the clinical side of the street and go get pro biotic off the shelf your having some constipation or if your having diarrhea or if you feel like you have leaky gut syndrome or if you feel guilty then all those all those reasons are great.

[8:43] Reason why to consider you know supplementing with a high quality pro biotic but the main thing i like about,
what nigga jennings has as they out they always promote the genius train species they want a clinical with their recommendations can you tell us about why that matters and more about that,
yeah that's a good question what thank you probably the best metaphor think of this lol what's that you got up to,
lawn in your backyard and is dirt and for whatever reason is is there's nothing growing there,
so you think you know i don't like that it's brown i'd like it to be green so you go down to the local store the supply store feed store and buy heard she,
which is what a lot of different types of seeds and is back are you tossed back,
well what are you gonna get you gonna get everything you have you got some tall dresser get some flowers to get some short rest you can all kinds,
read it what you want instead there's a lawn that you can play croquet on,
that you need to be specific about what you so there and just like you mentioned before their sisters like hundred trillion different micro clusters probably,
thousands of different types of my students he strangers other than a man of you just a random.

[10:13] Pickles or whatever it none getting a pro biotic better it is beneficial probably,
although you don't know for certain but you probably will be getting beneficial bacteria because ultimately that's where they came from or right is from a guy right up but don't really know what is going to do for you,
nice we're literature is going and i think you touch very well that is that there's a eight like a subset of the bacteria.

[10:43] They are generally beneficial the things that you're gonna find in yoga gonna find them and butter milk and different sauerkraut and fermented foods can she things that were familiar with.
Or doctors but beyond that the the literature is showing that in order to get therapeutic benefit.

[11:03] Going for a specific purpose or condition right what be your mobile or c difficile infection mom,
i'm in america so shit diarrhea which is something she does number of other things you have to know the bacteria that you're giving because the therapeutic benefits.

[11:23] That you get out of it is dictated by the bacteria that some literature and while driving in the side of it starts now if you want to control a c diff infection,
for example,
yogurt may help in the states that it will turn your backyard green using alarm number for really want is a four k one you have very specific battery which is identified as being beneficial to protect you against,
now and you mentioned it got rained connection there's that you're the man identified overnight get commercially available for things like to persian,
anxiety autism spectrum disorder wrap obesity there's this is real estate just yesterday,
there's an article was published in the journal of american medical association pediatrics johna pediatrics which is about as conservative as you can get,
raise the question that there is a link on the seventh so mark clearly gets don't need to be lose it but there's a link between.
The metronome ipad while yes childhood obesity,
so the the better living in the mother's gi tract and in the birth canal influence on whether or not her baby.
Gets up with the city as it after it warms up bro so pass the.

[12:54] You know to to look at it from that perspective that's absolutely cheating because your girl like jumpy actors attention to the inter connectedness between micro bio and or water.

[13:05] Yeah that's really mean that thank you for mentioning that research job one thing i believe that i have talked about on the podcast your before and some of the you know wedding are there patients been seen is just how.
I believe there is a link established between the mother and the child in terms of the insulin and sounds of the hormones functions i would.
Yeah see how they could draw the relationship between micro around and sell of being.
Are any kind of diabetic context you know later on a post living things like the,
i wanna go back to what you said about the commercial availability and inside is an elected so salivary as you see on eights because that's actually great connection is my understanding i mean,
when you look at salivary salon will touch on some of those things in terms of we got an app ophelia sounds and how it is in a really silly,
get into the,
diversification of the goes well but salivary is was it commercially available years ago and then the sourcing without the ability to culture it is marshall availability was our compromise or something like that but now it's back as much at.
That's right we as you mentioned earlier i will work for managing it for number of years and about five years ago or four years ago we we brought to market a product that was the,
also very selective so was salivary fuses c one specific strain of bacteria that was shown to be beneficial in helping to control,
increase permit in the gi tract go back and talk about the ramifications of that unfortunately the.

[14:39] The second bash that we got from production didn't meet our criteria,
the first batch which gave us about six months apply was great but the second that didn't.
At first the mr vendor the person that the company that we were purchasing raw materials from went back and forth about why that might be but it became clear that it was a,
apparently problem is going from a small batch which was the first batch to a larger batch which was production,
the radio just a little car and we couldn't for,
are the plates are you a process would allow us to tomorrow because it wasn't cost of living and unfortunately it wasn't something like we just put a little more,
that happens all the time to be able but what we had this look on a hobart to be to claim them on top,
what beach we went back to the people who were manufactured forces seven when you can squires with three consecutive matches.
There are production level batches of the the large two year supply attaches me the label claim for stability overtime,
then we'll bring it back to the market,
smh taken about two years to be able to do that because it don't just grow overnight growing and we have to march them over time they maintain stability shows really functional stability and label.

[16:15] Red light with just watched it last.
Yeah that's a great point to the stability the ability if you weld two package this you know there's there's a little bit of manufacturing finance if you will because and i want to just drop this point,
real quick as well before we get talking more about salivary is down.

[16:39] There's a lot of different microbes out there as huge as you mention right not everyone of those microbes are we able to.
Culture if you will and put in a capsule or put in the powder is that right yeah that's absolutely right so when you surgeon literature for.
I mentioned the journal pediatrics journal amended little bit ago may say that this bacteria in one of the study is the cited there is associated with but,
particular bacteria may not be commercially available right right,
so i wanna draw a line brief chiropractor connection so i have a lot of people with their lower back pain obviously as a doctor of chiropractic every now and then it's not actually there's spine that's causing the lower back pain it's actually this roast a medical referral from a kidney stones of the,
the development of calcium oxide late stones right so one of the microorganisms that's been shown to decrease the deposition of you or the formation of those calcium stones is and see if i can say this,
right cuz all these names axel of actor form in jens not not sure if you are familiar with that one specifically but will not i'm not held est,
funny but to illustrate my point that's actually not a is an organism that you can culture in terms of from manufacturing perspective so then the clinical question becomes okay.
What can we do for my diet and lifestyle and supplemental for a way out of perspective to insure age that got.
To diversify and increase its volume so foreman gems if you well that's really really important point and i think it goes to something that we actually haven't touched on yet but.

[18:18] Or component to consider and probably a discussion for another time but it's just work all three by alex which is the food is bacteria eat.

[18:27] These your number just double fibers there and then we can i just buy what can be the justice by the bacteria that live in our got and we can you eat those foods that contain those fibers,
those those agents which are as a circle priviledge go to feed the friendly bacteria.
So even though we might not be able to make commercially available at your bacterium.

[18:53] We may be able to enhances pro with the right type of accident yep that's exactly the model that i've seen and heard and i think it's really good results clinically especially again from a functional medicine from,
why style nutritional medicine perspective you have all of these people who have taken several rounds of antibiotics and a really decrease,
there fortitude if you will of the micro bio and she so important to look at this and,
consider chronically wets actually talk about salivary specifically i'd like you to touch on how it helps in terms of feeling the tight junctions that in chestnut hill yourselves and then,
how's little bit more about bacteria since cuz i think not a lot of people have heard of that are understand what that it's,
what does the second part first bacteria sins are agents that some but not all bacteria produce,
what they are is chemicals these bacteria generate as part of their life cycle which either protect them.
Or support their ability to grow in a particular buyer men or stressed to grow other bacteria.
Which then allows the bacteria to grow so the part of that the battery is defense mechanism of you well as i said not all back your cruise director isms.
And in the fact that is a world term bacteria since implies.
There's lots of different things that are considered to be doctors job here is that.

[20:24] These bacteria work by specific mechanism and if we understand what those mechanism are.
And then using a better ability to monitor the progress of the treatment and also make sure that we are using the right bacteria for the right approach,
so if you were to you don't know how it works you just kinda saying well,
no cuz i could see you give to people that helps we don't really know why bread but one of the things in biochemistry one of the things in,
in pharmacology actually an in nutritionist try and figure out what is the mechanism by does vitamin c help connecting the know what exactly is the biochemical pathway the garlic fishing,
jump to control cholesterol of you can understand that then you could go and see how it works and that's where these pictures is coming and also very is you c c one eight has been shown specifically to produce bacteria since,
that hoe to control the spread of infectious agents of the body presumably through having an influence on the.
Add in in this particular instance the way that we know that is an animal study three different groups of animals were exposed to listeria.
I have an invasive infectious condition and the the.
The animals these were lab mice the boys that had no treatment they were the controls show the concentration of the story through their their app and the mice that had the you c one eight.

[21:59] As a screen goes in,
there's no there's no mystery infection also another git protected them against this invasion board and then there's a third group.
That was given the you c c one eight but have a better isn't knocked out of.
And to particular bacteria that they had they had mutated so it's not produce this particular bacterias,
i had one cuz weather training is to say alright is it the back commission that's giving the the protection or something else can you sue one okay,
what they found is that he's disturbing my sleep at that with a knockout mice for the after using,
god listeria infection that's reliable test to show the uc one one eight and specifically the bacterias in it,
where at least part of the mechanism to talk to controls your,
and then there was another study that was done this is a human cell lines in other words they would take a sample of human cells grow them in a test tube and then test for your post.
And this is the red double take a two xl which are traditionally used to test the function of custard total.
Actually found is that if you that the well let me tickets i drink your charger here for what a the tight junctions.
Which are the connection between cells in your your lore gi tract.

[23:36] Yes truly believed that the best description i read was by dr less of a sanyo hard reset when using the school he was taught that the change options were like tile.

[23:48] And the i'm sorry to solve one gi tract like tile and the options with the drop in the.

[23:55] So the purpose of that is to seal the joint in between these two sells these you're joining cells that line the gi tract,
the reason i support just because you don't want anything speaking pastor normal adjusted mechanisms.
Which allow facilitated sure channels of digested food because the bacteria that live there you wanna keep that out.
Rash appears it was believed that is tight junction were static which means that they they would for the what.
Connect me with just stay that way through that sell any of the ball down the night was a pathological condition which allowed potentially harmful agents to get into the bloodstream.
Well what's the sorrow and others on his team discovered is that an actual fact mr georges are not static.
They're dynamic is that the properties that make up does this interface.
There are proteins that are produced by the cell line this gi tract that those those parties protrude from the side of the cell and interlaced with their counterparts in the other cell,
and when the interlaced that makes a positive connection it's not just that the to celebrate together.
You can talk on the connection that holds together after.

[25:16] Well this proteins forest which means they shiner florescent light in the laboratory.

[25:24] I am in a in a test to show they took three different are for different cell phones types of pierogies they were florescent.

[25:33] And they show what they look like at normal and you can see the nice outline of the that sells where the procedure for suv leadership blowing.
It's there intact the old souls together nice.

[25:47] They supposed to sell to hydrogen peroxide which is a chemical that causes destruction destruction district,
okay we'll be grated the day then workday the word is all set and you could see that there's no tight junction city sells them or is the soul rebel fusion clear.

[26:07] But then they print treated them with you c c one eight and then gave hydrogen peroxide and again protected cells.
So now we have two different mechanism which which has been demonstrated to help protect the cells from degree,
one of them is the protection against accident stress but does the hydrogen peroxide does the word is true victor's daughter research,
that those two studies demonstrate.

[26:36] In my opinion all didn't explicitly say this in my humble opinion or my reading of literature i think that the mechanism is probably two different ways looking.

[26:47] Is it flat or process that happens a nigga.

[26:51] That causes these proteins to become the greatest or to become the production to correct to say that the production of these proteins become stressed.
And when that happens the project around kinda like your go pro or similar velcro all together but you pull them apart then.
The cells the big gap junction between salt or so on.

[27:18] These both of those two mechanisms inflammation i'm sorry be i didn't dropped side serial.
Mark diameter is the the the actual underlying trigger to,
please that's for that as well so that's kinda my take that's incredible i was there with the one study with hagin frank said i was not familiar with the other study with listeria stashes remarkable on,
you know this is why i want to talk about you c c one al salivary is because it really is quite unique and very specific i mean if you've looked at other no side of your pro biotic bottle or whatever you know a lot of its very repetitive between you know different companies are there for manufactures but you c c one eight salivary as its very specific and it has very research functions jeremy just remark on a few others specific to use you c one a but also just having a,
well balanced or by amp reducing anxiety by acting on specific receptors of the gut brain axis increasing the production and utilization of,
your rates fresh again we can really go down several different avenues here we don't have all the time to do that today in and also regulating commune system function and,
checking around our conversation your bill i always you know my dad always told me what can be measured can be controlled so,
i like to start with a baseline so one of the things that we're offering our patients here is a micro bio i'm still test for it so for the pay,
patients were willing to go there with a stool test will be have them do is actually take a sample of their still send it into a lab and as a complimentary no.

[28:57] Those microbe ions and look at their diversification or lack of diversification i've done my own test i need to my lack of the solas because i'm low on my cell so,
is that something is promoted in the functional medicine world is you knows testing stuff actually it's happy to this earlier when i mentioned that,
new technology were able to measure dna much much more rapidly and easily and inexpensively never was able to before you sleep,
previously to the technology that was originally developed during the human genome and then human mark mobile,
the only way to transfer gi bacteria was to do a stool evaluation which meant that you would like to still show and then see what up culture.

[29:45] What is the problem is that you re don't grow in together and it's rice bowl that meant that.
But you get a lot of false negatives because results come back and say well with your negative four ls off while i was it doesn't go to,
to really know what you're doing and only a few left were able to do that was very very likely that you'd get lost very few really.
I am able to measure them accurately,
well with the new technology now we can inexpensively we need to live people can inexpensively reliably measured the dna.
When i try to culture there measuring the dna and that can be done even on a cell stock my right so that allows much much.

[30:36] Easier inexpensive rapid weight setting what's going on g i track down the widest of this explosion of interest you have before you can do a google scholar search for micro bio,
i have never hit you get there in the tens of thousands right.
And fuck back to your initial question yes i think that's a really interesting in and would be a valuable test of course is not something that we know nothing about to say.
Will this bacteria is to low and therefore we need to take more of it not being a major,
like looking for instance a well its got oak trees maple ash got some trees i think there's not of maple trees over,
right you don't know are we don't have enough data yet.
About the human michael brown to be able to reliably draw the conclusion that this city bacteria.
Or that weather be friendly or unfriendly is too far to go just yet.
We're still we're still collecting dollar which i suspect is why this lab huge driving right is gathering as much information as i can to establish a bitch.

[31:52] That's exactly what they're doing ass signs again the whole purpose with this is just to elevate the profession to be able to serve more people with,
clinical knowledge and information which i thank you bill for providing for our listeners here today and we can do some much as chiropractors we can further that structural care,
with leicester nutritional medicine i've been there so much that we can learn from in terms of the microwave i'm back and help improve our functional hell so if your struggling with energy if your struggling with anxiety depression leaky gut loading digestion there's all these lifestyle app,
applications that benefited from taking a look at your micro bio,
and really figuring this out so that is available to us reson i couldn't agree more i have quicken site for of i'm such a nerd i love this finds absolutely thousand.
And i can tell from our conversation that you do as well from when i first met about.

[32:46] That's where as a kid growing up did you ever see yourself being so interested in the topic like this actor who played the track.
Did you find it to be best in this amazing.

[33:00] Schedule hey thanks so much bill i really appreciate your time today we may have to have you on the platform to discuss and what about,
free about ex or some other functional health topics oh thanks again really appreciated that the pleasure of thinking,
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