Transcript: MFW 027 | Back To School Family Wellness Applications

 

[1:05] Greatest asset best way to have a healthy family is by living a family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing,
affected and sustainable ways to elevate your health and the health of your family then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable,
because we have an amazing show for you today,
and before we get to today's episode let me say a few words as i do every week about power performance gym power performance jim is dedicated to helping you achieve your best definition of healthy and strong power performance specializes in strength and conditioning for individuals small groups and athletic teams,
wait and pain management,
as well as recovery and nutrition everyone at power experience is a full movement and health analysis to build your blueprint for success targeting your goals mention the michigan family on this podcast to receive your movement and health analysis,
as a complimentary gift learn more about how power performance can help you move look and feel better,
by visiting power jim dot com that's pow r g y m dot com.
And as your listening to today's episode you on notice that i'm speaking as if i'm doing a webinar are.
You can also view the webinar are portion of this podcast by expanding the show notes on your mobile device or desktop and taking advantage of those clickable links,
to the corresponding video alright family so let's jump into today's episode packed full of benefits and value.
For the busy family and this back to school season good day families my name is dr kyle and in the family wellness chiropractor at the michigan family wellness clinic today we're talking all about back to school family wellness.

[2:43] Many parents got up early this week to send their kids off to their first day of school.
Wow this is such an exciting time for both kids and parents it's also a time of transition and additional stress stay on top of the season by staying well-adjusted through chiropractic care here just some of the benefits of chiropractic adjustments.
Improve sleep lowered air to build the anxiety increase brain function and hands me in system function.
Elevated athletic performance and relief from headaches and lower back,
and further boost your immune system with the herbal nutritional medicine to prevent colds allergies and the flu coming up this flu season remember in order to take care of the p,
people who depend on you like your kids your spouse and in order to contribute most to your community.
And at your work you have to take care of yourself so that's what we're all about here at michigan family wellness.
Furthermore not only is chiropractic care incredibly valuable for mom and dad for keeping the whole family healthy by bringing in your kids for those adjustments as well.
The purpose of today's weather in our is to highlight the nutritional medicine available to keep you and your family healthy and ahead of the curve when it comes to academic performance.
Boosting your immune system function and recovering from colds and flus faster.
Not only is there a major change in the seasons which can at aggravate allergies and circadian rhythms are sleep rhythms.

[4:14] But changes in schedules academic responsibilities social pressures extracurricular activities like sports and athletes and even jobs for some high school and college aged people.

[4:26] All of these combine put in increased demand on our original system are immune system and require quality sleep for recovery.
The sudden and compound nature of these changes often results in illness or injury.
Because our bodies are not only stress but we aren't taking enough time to rest.

[4:46] Poor diets and refined carbohydrates processed foods will only add fuel to this flame physiologically dysfunction so.

[4:56] As we kick off our discussion here and here we go this is the typical back to school family a lot of families like i said a lot of parents got early on tuesday morning to see their kids off the bus stop.
It was a great site going into the office to i just patients on tuesday morning.

[5:13] Alright so here we are here is the family wellness toolbox so we have tools on the left and we have applications on the right.
So to help prevent yourself and family from getting sick and handling all the stress we mention i've designed a family wellness toolbox.
The toolbox is a combination of therapeutic nutritional medicine and a daily multi vitamin that keep the body charge and responsive to handle the challenges and stress.
Associated with life especially going back to school.
Everyone this is resiliency remember the whole purpose and mission and vision behind the mission family wellness clinic.
Is to equip you with resiliency which is that strength to adapt to the stress in your life alright.

[6:01] So we're gonna talk through these a tools and the multivitamin and we're going over these applications for you so let's start with rodeo engine saying but first let's have a conversation about our adrenal glands in case you were wondering.
The adrenal glands are these two triangular shaped glands that sit on top of her kidneys they produce hormones and make up a significant part.
Of our and consistent in animals wanna stress are arises they respond by going into a fight or flight mode or a sympathetic response.
After the stress or is removed or the event is over the animal returns to a relaxed state.
Or home in stasis which is a balance between paris and pathetic and sympathetic nervous systems in humans we also enter into a fight or flight response when faced with the stress or whether the work school relationships you name it.
But oftentimes humans don't return to a relaxed state.
Many factors from contribute to this pattern the adrenal glands releases a hormone,
called cortisol which you can see down here at the bottom of this diagram cortisol is our stress hormone and low amounts it is very helpful for our fight or flight response the trouble is.
Sometimes the adrenal glands produce cortisol all the time or a chronic stress response okay there's this constant stimulus calling for more court is all,
this is what is known as the hp access for the hypothalamus pituitary axis the adrenal glands they're just one part of the hypothalamus pituitary adrenal axis okay.

[7:36] As you can appreciate in this diagram the adrenal glands are alternately,
okay specifically the hypothalamus and pituitary the anterior pituitary this is called the hp access and this is why most americans are sick.
Chronically fatigued and developing metabolic syndromes that lead to more pathological conditions so.
How do we fix and support all of this this is where rodeo.
That really function well to support the hypothalamus pituitary adrenal.
Or the hp a access rodeo engine sing support mental clarity and support cognitive function the promo vitality and stamina,
to help maintain proper energy support physical endurance maintain feelings of general well being,
when experiencing temporary stress they help the body adapt to the changes of everyday life and if that is resiliency.
I don't know what is so as you can see there are tons of benefits and value to rodeo jensen here.

[8:41] If you test well for this medication for this medicine i often tell people to take two tablets in the mid afternoon,
right when you start to crave that third or fourth cup of coffee or right when you just feel so exhausted that you are about to fall asleep at work so that's rodeo legend sing supporting your adrenal glands during seasonal changes is one of the most important things you can do.
To prevent fatigue and elements alright so let's talk about the importance of vitamin d.

[9:08] Here's the thing the body can synthesize vitamin d via ultraviolet light from the sun the trouble is we live in michigan.
And there's not a lot of sunshine for most the months of the year specially september to may or june.
Not only that but one of my mentors dr cass helps us understand if your shadow is taller than you are.
The angle of the light hitting your skin is not the correct angle for your body to make vitamin d.
The optimal angle of the sun is when your shadow is as tall or shorter than you are.

[9:42] Healthy vitamin d levels correlate with strong bones a happy mood and contribute to healthy dna slash are any signaling vitamin d specifically vitamin d three has become one of the most study nutrients of the human body.
We now understand the importance of vitamin d not just as a vitamin but as a nurse hormone that has profound signaling significance.

[10:05] The reason i like this particular vitamin d is because it's a light is on spray which is the best formula not only for adults but also for kids with growing bones because.
The and k seven variation which is significantly enhances the absorption of vitamin d.
As we said earlier the body can make vitamin d in the presence of ultraviolet sunlight and with enough available cholesterol that's how the synthesis occurs people who live in northern latitudes such as michigan wisconsin.
These people are in danger of not getting enough daily vitamin d especially in the winter months so okay solar add this one here is a highly absorbable d three and k two combination like i said in that spray.
Which helps the absorption and direction of calcium so if you're concerned about us up near us your process.
If you're concerned about heart conditions prostate breast conditions these are all things that are skinny supported by optimal levels of vitamin d.

[11:12] It's absorbs directly into the bloodstream because it's a spray it doesn't go through the gi tract through your stomach like a oral medication when.
One spray supplies one thousand international units of vitamin d three.
And patience tell me they experience the best results when they use about five ten sprays per day where there's more and more research to show that.
We need to be doing ten thousand international units or more of vitamin d three to really get those levels in the blood over one hundred over two hundred which is where a lot of.
Nero and for now i just like to see those levels.

[11:49] Okay so now i just know we mention the gastrointestinal tract so let's talk about how we can support our got in this back to school season,
okay so here is ortho biotic this is our pro biotic that we use the office or at least one of the main thing with probiotics your everyone.
Is that you want to have a diversity of your micro by am so as we go back to school this year our got is one of the places that interfaces with the outside world it acts as a barrier to pathogens and antigens.
And if it's working properly it working as the food we eat and to new transit ourselves can use.
When we eat process foods and high sugar diets are got very your begins to break down and display oses begins to set in,
also known as intestinal per me ability or leaky gut if you for those terms furthermore when i get doesn't work our brain doesn't work because of the got brain connection,
so here's the practical application if you're trying to help your kids do well on exams help their brain by helping their got which okay so we also have this formula in a powder form this is called flora boost okay for kids who have trouble swallowing capsules.
You can make this into a glass of water or a juice or milk and they can drink this and you don't have to worry about swallowing capsules.

[13:10] Furthermore combat these patterns by eating clean organic non gmo.
And taking ortho biotic one or two times per day with meals each capsule or the biotic includes twenty billion county forming units or cf use.
Which is one of the reasons why like this formula so much further more a particular strain called lactic the solas ram know sis.
Has been thoroughly studied as a mood modulator so here's just a little bit more information about that this particular strain affects depression and stress behavior in my ss okay.
So here's the thing.
When they do the studies on mice they will measure the levels of stress when they put mice in water because my still like to swim when my sir place in a tub of water they freak out and week and we can measure their stress levels by measuring.
The release of the hormone cortisol member quarters off earlier cortisol shoots through the roof when these mice are placed in water we can also measure.
Other vital signs like heart rate and blood pressure when in the water the heart rate of the mice increases along with their blood pressure however.
When researchers supplement these mice with locked up so its ram noses or the specific kind of probiotic.

[14:29] The than those mice are placed in the water the mice are relaxed one reach one researcher described this affect as a valuable like affect so.
Can you imagine that kind of value i'm level like a fax just from taking your probiotic so.

[14:45] Again this stuff is powerful this stuff is there pubic but it's gotta be right for you so remember.
You have to be tested for these things and here's the practical application it's not gonna work if you don't take it.
So take your pro biotic supplement alright so we gotta talk about the sinuses because during seasonal changes are sinuses make up the front lines of defense against allergies and opportunists that infections.
Supporting your sinus cavities with central is the smart way to clear the airway and come back on friendly antigens optimal sinus health requires proper circulation through the sinus cavity that is free of mucus buildup.

[15:23] Under healthy conditions the sinuses are empty and have a thin layer of mucus.
A healthy process that occurs in the sinus cavities turned musa mucosa larry clearance.
Allows the at the fillmore those layers of cells.
In coordination with mucous production to continually remove waste from the sinuses by facilitating drainage and particle removal okay so sign a shawl.
Supports sinus health by increasing that mucosa.
Which is decreasing the buildup of mucus and boosting the immune response.
During respiratory challenges so here is a great alternative to new snacks is this santa trawl.
Right here okay so again sasha is a specialized preparation a botanical new trans formulated to help support the immune health.
And immediate support for respiratory challenges.
Alright and a seal system is a powerful amino acid that dissolved mucus by breaking up dice off i bonds that contribute to mucus density.

[16:29] The plant enzyme brown lean axe in synergy with an a c assisting due to its protein digesting effects are there's also a little bit of licorice root.

[16:40] Which sooth the respiratory irritation and a little bit time sooth the sinuses and helps loosen the flat if your allergies are stronger and more intense than average.
Enhance the power of sandwich all by adding natural d hist the combination of these two supplements work synergistic lee,
to even further knock out allergies alright so talk about natural d hist this is a powerful combination of lavender rides and tax ins and pro deal it enzymes.
And botanical stays in to provide comprehensive support for seasonal changes caused by common environmental allergens.
The key ingredient cresson is a powerful five annoyed that supports healthy histamine levels.
Curtains affect on seasonal discomfort is on match by other natural substances.

[17:27] Curses and has limited absorption in the body but has a long half life meaning the body has the ability to store it and use it over time.
Building up a reserve of course of ten in the body is critical.
For the effective support of nasal and sinus passages during seasonal changes unlike traditional approaches curses and stops the release of histamine before it starts.
It does this by stabilizing mass cells specialize new cells that when activated.
Release histamine that cause seasonal discomfort so by binding to calcium protein complexes.
Corsican prevention influx of calcium into the mass cells this inhibit the process of mass cell rupture.
And other chemical meters from being released without the release of histamine the body does not react to come in environmental triggers so again if you're really suffering from allergies.
The combination of natural d hist not person combined with sasha all is a great natural alternative to always taking your flonase and your new snacks.
And all of that over the counter stuff that really,
can be doing more harm than good if you're taking it all the time chronically is it really solving the problem so now that we've done all this hard work to knock out antigens and mobilize mucus we need to help the body get rid of it and that's for drainage know you comes and,
alright the simple thing to remember about drainage know you is that helps the body clean and clear connective tissue.
And other words it's a homeopathic remedy designed to train and tone of ii organs of detoxification especially the lymph the lymphatic drainage down there.

[19:05] Is really really important you can have the best immune system in the world but you have to be able to identify the antigens kill the antigens and then remove them through the elimination pathways and that's what drainage know you.
Helps with okay.

[19:22] And it does this naturally like i said it's a great home you'll have moving on some melatonin here melatonin is the hormone that opposes cortisol in the circadian rhythms okay,
you need to be getting a good night's sleep as you go back to school and as your transitioning in this transitional time of year.
This helps your body buffer and recover from all of the stress of a transitional time of the year.
The thing i like about this version of melatonin is that again it's a spray delivery so it's bypassing got digestion which is way more effective.
And you end up using less and eating less plus it's more absorbable right into your pena clan which is where your body naturally produces melatonin anyways so i highly recommend.
Getting tested for the effectiveness the benefits and the value.
Of this melatonin this kind of melatonin you're not gonna developed a dependence on okay.
A lot of patience tell me oh yeah i've tried melatonin before doesn't work.
This is different it's not a pill that you swallow this is actually something that you spray and has delivery right into your bloodstream immediately so let's move along to never time for today alright.
This is a fantastic herbal medicine for just helping the person that's always worrying and always anxious okay or are they just have so much stress so much ups and downs that they need,
to have a more even keel emotional state and that's for never time for take comes in.

[20:56] Not only that it is a great age pa access modulator like we talked about earlier it can help calm your nerves support digestion and use the effects of.
Occasional stress the blend of herbs were talking about in this combination are st john's wart shes andrew and skull cap and saffron.
And they provide a wide range of federal chemicals that really help to like i said calm the nerve support digestion is a great liver tonic.
And again we're all about trying to balance the levels of stress the balance between the pair sympathetic.
And the sympathetic nervous system okay like i said earlier provides great support and maintenance of the liver these herbs are better okay,
many people have forgotten what the taste of bitterness.
Is supposed to be like because all over food everything all over juice everything is so sweet all right so here we are rounding out the family wellness toolbox are the twice daily essential pack so everyone.
This is a great solution and this is a cost this is convenient and cost effective solution for so many families you know the,
entrepreneur's the parents to professionals they're on the go on the run they know that they should be taking a multivitamin they know that they should be taking fish oil then realize the importance of calcium and magnesium but they don't have the time.
To put all that together and take it with them on the go so that's where the convenience comes in with the twice daily essential packs and again this is also cost effective because now you're only purchasing one.

[22:35] Products or nutritional medicine here you're not purchasing three or four and having all the cost of that so.
I instruct my patients to take one of these in the morning with their breakfast and take one at dinner,
or if they're on the go they can just grab them and take them with them on the go so just to summarize here the family wellness toolbox we have our tools on the left.
We have these eight nutritional remedies and a multi vitamin support along with all of their applications.
Rodeo engine seemed to support our original system so radiator optimize vitamin d levels and strengthen our immune and skeletal systems.

[23:14] Or the biotic to help replenish our micro bio sandwich all for sinus congestion and unit and more challenges.
Natural d hist to combat allergies drainage will you to help clean and clear out our connective tissues melatonin to help us sleep properly and recover from the occasional stressful schedules.
Now time for the module eight hour brain and help ease anxiety and the twice daily essential packs for full spectrum multivitamin support.

[23:45] Alright so now you may be thinking alright so the family wellness toolbox is pretty awesome so how can how does this relate with chiropractic and how can my chiropractor help.
Of going back to school many of my patients already know but the spine profoundly impacts the central nervous system for healing.
As you can see in this diagram all over organs glands and tissues are innovated by nerves that trace back to the spinal cord.

[24:13] By adjusting the vertebral around the spinal cord we can specifically and significantly improve and restore the function of two issues that aren't working like they should be.
So include chiropractic adjustments for you and your family as part of your health and wellness lifestyle.

[24:31] Chiropractic adjustments are also perfect for kids recovering.
From playground injuries or sport injuries so i hear this all the time my kids are bound to injure themselves on the playground or on their sports team how can typewriter justin's help.

[24:45] Perfect question so if you look at this frame here we can see how the top five causes of children's sports and recreation injuries include.
Basketball football bicycle accidents accidents on the playground and soccer injury so not only can you help your kids prevents getting future injuries but you can also help.
The recovery from his injuries with chiropractic adjustments okay.

[25:14] And here's just a little bit more detailed information on that again this is for dad tickets for eighteen years old.
And there are close to fifty thousand injuries related to basketball and football,
just because those are such high contacts sports soccer is up there as well and like i said i can't say enough about the benefits and value of chiropractic care.
To help with those injuries especially recovery not only that but also prevention.
Of those injuries alright ladies and gentlemen michigan families that is it for today remember to pick up your family wellness toolbox from the machine family wellness clinic at your next appointment i just wanna leave you guys with one final thought here.
People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care so.
My mission my vision and purpose is to serve this amazing community with these natural conservative an alternative approaches to healthcare and all of that is fueled by the justice passion of serving the key,
and doing this for the people that have.
Meant so much for me all right families what you think we'd love to get your feedback if you would like to email me about anything you've heard on this or any previous edition of the family wellness lifestyle,
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MFW 026 | Amy Lanci Podcast Transcripts

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[0:00] Music.

[1:05] Greatest asset.
Best way to have a healthy family is by living a family wellness lifestyle so if you're looking for a fishing affect,
then i strongly recommend you make yourself comfortable because we have an amazing show for you today,
and before we get to today's episode let me say a few words as i do every week about power performance gym power performance jim is dedicated to helping you achieve your best definition of healthy and strong power performance specializes in strength and conditioning for individuals small groups and athletic teams,
wake and pain management,
as well as recovery and nutrition everyone at power experience is a full movement and health analysis to build your blueprint for success targeting your goals mention the michigan family on this podcast to receive your movement and health announces,
as a complimentary gift learn more about how power performance can help you move look and feel better,
by visiting power jim dot com that's pow r g y m dot com,
me and nancy is a certified holistic health coach and certified personal trainer who helps busy and guilt driven women lose their first ten pounds by focusing on their emotional eating and mindset after struggling with their own weight,
for twenty years and he finally reached your highest weight of two hundred and three pounds.
At the age of twenty four when she was also diagnosed with fatty liver disease within five years of finding love she made the necessary dietary,
and lifestyle changes to lose sixty two pounds and got her liver back to normal levels.

[2:36] Now she is on a mission to help women find their own path to self care with a host of,
to actively listening to appliances emotional journey takes me was born and raised in the los angeles area and move to san diego where she earned her bachelor's degree in psychology from the university of california san diego.
Now she lives there with her husband father and two dogs all right families let's dive into today's interview welcome families to the interview portion of today's podcast my guest on the show today is amy ramsey me walking the podcast it's so great to have you.

[3:13] Happy to be here.
You know i said this last week and am sw podcast that all sitting in here because it really is remarkable just the way that.
I truly am amazed and you know alternately grateful because really the thing is now the michigan family ones community can benefit,
from aimee's experiences and name is unique perspective where previously,
that really mean i have been possible are possible so really i truly think you me for being on the show today.

[3:51] No thank you for having me on the show and looking forward to it so i just told our listeners a little bit about you as the professional tell us more about use the person and what does family look like for you.

[4:04] So basically to me is what every you feel like you belong to and it.
On it can be like a whole noting part of people like for instance like,
i am chinese american my husband is from a police background and as our daughter is basically illustration of that and it and i see that goes for any on thing in a.
Any family but not weather like you have single handedly two gay parents or my our weather that you have like the worst parent they stay like that is.
You know as long as you guys are happy that is my picture family and so.
Okay today i have a daughter and two two for babies to yeah i couldn't agree more you know i just celebrated my four year anniversary yesterday actually and just so thankful.
Thank you yeah i just no so grateful and thankful for you know the gift of family and really value and treasure it and i agree with what you're saying and now,
especially that diversity those cultures coming together you know you said you being chinese american that's just really beautiful so i really applaud you guys for that,
now it again with it being michigan family wellness do you have any insights or you know have you ever been to michigan and i know you're out there in california but,
is there anything there for i personally have never been michigan cuz i i was born and grew up in la and i.
And living in you don't have but my husband's family has very deep roots in michigan my in-laws they grow up and year born and i live in battle creek.

[5:43] And then he moved out here and my husband has another family in ann arbor and i have a cousin that's going in michigan university right now so so so i do wanna visit one day ten been there yet my husband.
Says he's very fond of the henry ford museum.

[6:01] Fantastic honestly me everything you just mentioned is right here in our backyard you know in the southeast michigan area many of our listeners now on my patients know that i'm actually originally from ann arbor so me during our preach at,
you know you're sharing part of your story with me and that's honestly one of the reasons why i wanted to bring you on the podcast are you do you have this compelling story.
And i just wanted you to go ahead and just walk us through that share with us your experiences and the changes you made and things that you did to kinda take you where you are.
I'm with health coaching today alright so.
So when i was younger she used to be very skinny i was actually a very picky eater and that.
Second grade i discovered food but then i think i like the other extreme ate too much and i started getting some weight not alot i have just enough for a little potbelly and then.
Time went on they be waking just kept coming on and it and i have had it gets to my weight gain but.
Basically was more or less than project rave from your through elementary school throughout middle school and high school and assembly that generation where like a snack was like.
In medium size bag of hot cheetos and a bottle of a sixteen ounce bottle of coca-cola like that was mice and high school and.
Yeah i mean i was active two hours on seventeen i was a water polo i was.

[7:37] In orchestra and i was in the newspaper as energy for my newspaper stop sorry i was like so busy and high school running around after all these things that in the weight just kept coming in at the same time.
I hate you i made friends with the boys but i was never.

[7:58] I never had too much luck with dating guys.
I am a sisterly figure per say as he said i was very much alike side by an email like you think that i can definitely relate to the guys in high school with.
But into the dating app that i got to the point where.
No i was asking me out and i honestly thought that you have to be skinny and the skinny girl to get nice guys even get to ask you out.
So not really we make confident and i really honestly believe that like i thought like.
Okay if i just get down to the certain way to that perfect guy is gonna come to the door and he's gonna notice me and have lived with.

[8:49] My heating and.

[8:52] Can you order college me i became more comfortable with myself but then you know again like its at the freshman fifteen continue and then leaking could you and then but age twenty four.
I will reach my peak at two hundred three pounds and i was diagnosed with fatty liver the non alcoholic kind.
And i actually remember going in for my first liver biopsy.
And is it scary because i i didn't want to my parents cuz i was kind of ashamed and.
So i basically when in alone and my friend my friend is gonna pick me up and i remember the doctor having to do the ultrasound of my liver before she stuck the needle in for the biopsy and.
And she pointed to the screen to sell you see how white that is that yeah that's all about your liver and i got the age of twenty four that.

[9:46] Gosh like i thought this kind of stuff can happen till lease is as gonna be at least forty.
If it really i buy i think i have a couple tickets before this caught up with me but inevitably it didn't.
And is it in every dead and it just it was just one of those things where i was very hard on myself.

[10:11] And eventually the hot is kinda move on and it's kind of like being monitored by a my regular medical doctors are headed to international pack coming to just kinda.
You'll get her in play as i got some supplement and julie said about the greens and.
So i was going on and then the same time that got when in my life like you know i'm ready for a relationship that will.
Be sustainable someone that will love me for me.
And it was cuz i was also introvert is also very shy anything outside watching a movie with friends like i didn't.

[10:54] That will that no social activities outside of that so i signed up for an online dating site.
And three months later i was not superman and we gotta fight the year we.
Go home after that and we have been married now for almost five years.
And again congratulations believe in god eight years and does that mean i met him i was still two hundred three pounds.
I mean i may have.
And he still love me and i don't have to be skinny and reset my mindset like i don't like i honestly like.

[11:36] That was really a believe that i got was the truth back in high school and into college and the moments that we found love like.
That really does know kinda just threw me outside the box that was in and made me realize like you know what like.

[11:56] No that's not my true like its not its first or not not my trip so i sedan.
When i met him not only like things are improve like a like your she wants them what time it.
And so like i i we went hiking because that was.
But we want hiking on a date me like walk to light because he like to walk just like have conversations so that just you and then if he had a membership that i was the one time you let's go.
Go to the gym together so we dead and at eleven miles to my own like.
May like due diligence in studying for nutrition because like at the okay what's car versus a whole grain and like you know how many.
How can i make a pillar veggies into my diet says doing on the side to an addition that like you know it i started to sleep earlier like is it like it's in the night with my friends my friends were all night owls.
And and still wake up at like six in the morning the next day for pro work.
Or classes so then i entered i started going to bed at like nine or ten o'clock instead.
So no sleeping or moving more taking care of myself more and feeling happier and then even when trying to look for six months of knowing my husband the man that with my husband i lost ten house without even trying.

[13:30] So what so just like.
My wife is a testament that when you find that one thing to like shake your mindset to really say that taking care of yourself is worth it.
Are you thinking like this fall into place that yes so can the physical stuff to.

[13:50] Absolutely will amy i really appreciate your levels on their ability here i think that's what people are really looking for what they resonate with most and i just think it's it's such a compelling story and you're honestly not alone i mean.
You're definitely someone who is you know comparable with sharing their story and comfortable with you now putting yourself out there which i really appreciate but here's the thing i really feel like there are tons of people out there listening.
Who can identify exactly with what you're experiencing it may not be nonalcoholic fatty liver disease and made it may be something related to,
you know access weight or anything like that or even mention those emotional components related to dating or relationships,
but honestly i think there's a lot of people out there who can relate with exactly what you're experiencing in describing and i think you have inspirational story in the sense that you can overcome those things you know you don't have to be defined by what you are saying,
your identity doesn't have to come from you know your relationships or from how much you weigh or are you now different things like that so,
i guess i just kinda wanna circle back during that time when you were a little bit younger and you were getting this diagnosis of you now non-alcoholic fatty liver disease how did you feel during that time like we,
was was it scary for you did you feel on kinda talk us through that well first of.
It was kinda like a little armadillo frustration because my doctor so my triglycerides are so high despite my class are going down.

[15:23] And so we had it but the doctors say hey like we need to come in to do another blood test to double check.
Yeah yes to tv level is didn't actually tell me what it was at first is seventy double check that.
And now i went in a few times double check with my blood and it was a lot of back and forth to the irs frustration there and if i gain the diagnosis and not really know that meant.
And then having to be refer to get a liver biopsy and then c and liver specialist was it was.
It is kind of mind blowing and i just couldn't even.

[16:02] Like comprehend that this was actually happening and in the same time like i also need like a.
Cannot believe i did this to myself and i am not see thought i had time on my side and it still only says you sent in i had other friends who are your just as young and the other slightly younger.
And they were doing the exact same thing but they are in have access weight in had the liver disease they don't have to make as far seeing as far as the they told me.
They the doctors are like oh you like the bill of health and there's a little party at the.
Right wish i was you the other level of the jealousy that is also emotions going on so.

[16:52] Oh yeah the reason i go there is just because i think a lot of people kinda discredit or downplay,
narrow emotional state are psycho somatic functioning and how that plays such a critical role in our health actually of listeners are curious to learn more about this,
you can actually go back to michigan family wellness episode twenty two i believe where we discuss the prevalence of body dysmorphic disorder and i'm not saying that any experience that herself,
you know when you're bombarded by the media and just our culture society where women's wastes have to be a certain shade and body has to look like this and i'm leaving go for men as well you know there's more research to show that men are experiencing this where,
you know you need to have this huge muscles are have this you know the specific chisel jar things like this and then they look at themselves in the mirror and they don't see that,
and that can create these this function on these honestly,
oftentimes irrational thoughts and you know reflexes that you know just because you don't look like the people on tv doesn't mean that you're less valuable or your identity doesn't have to come from that so that's why.
Just once i get a little bit more inside there and see your experiences i like the way you phrased on your website actually if you gotta.
In his website which show tells about later but if you read the about her section she says messed up big time and two young for this can you tell us more about that me.
Yeah i know it is saying it was just i felt like now i have no one else to blame but myself.

[18:29] And because they also re hire a lower value self-worth and my confidence.

[18:39] No going with it till you i just be myself at the time and.
I honestly felt like you know i was having kind of a breakdown and is doing slow motion and because i hate.

[18:55] Do i tell my family because i don't wanna worry them yeah i made myself even more alone and more lullaby needed to and i did tell some friends only like it's like you.
And because there's a little bit ashamed there to cuz i was always at as if admitting i had a problem.
Me and what the problem releases were just admitting that you're this was something that i need to correct.

[19:25] You know what the doctors also told me that you can maybe get over it.
Like it was member never liking me for circuit over there was a smell like again it was always kinda just like well you know you need to lose weight and no not really get to really get over it whatever.
Set it to the doctors with me i appreciate the medical help i did get a bloody did monitor me when i did it was also just like and i need that support.
And because i was kind of will that she my kind of limited support i could've had an because i.
Cuz to say out loud to other friends and family.

[20:12] Made it even more real right likely story continued on that.

[20:20] After losing another twenty thousand more hard work on my and my liver level but my liver levels are completely back to normal.
Amazon is yeah and i will continue to live in the house over the next few years and i.
That should last sixty two house or five years of or like lot slow dietary lifestyle changes and not the bath but it was the most sustainable one.
Let me but it still impact finding it so significant i mean one of the people that i like to read a gym county talks about you know the flywheel and allergy where,
essentially it can be very difficult to get something started but essentially once you do get.
Something started and you work on at weather be weight loss or a relationship or career and your diligence and your consistent in your concurrent with that.
Essentially overtime that metaphorical flywheel begins to spin a little faster a little faster,
and then before you know it you barely have to touch the thing and it's already moving and a nice consistent well-oiled machine essentially just used analogy there now,
you mentioned naturopathic know you had senior not naturopathic doctor and you are working with some outlet park acid to help with your liver,
what other things did you do did you try the chiropractor it was a part of your health journey at all did you see an acupuncturist was it just a naturopathic or was it a collaboration of different things that really played a role in your health journey,
so yes i did you have to pack and so in addition to the green supplement.

[21:55] And after that look at the initials you gave me i detect contractor can't i did i got a car accident when i was eighteen years old what a terrible cracks.
But it was enough to give me whiplash and i didn't because i did not my spine was not hitting a nerve i didn't even notice this whiplash was there until.
I started realizing that when i light was walking a straight line with people next to me that i knew that i was running into them they didn't realize does not walking a straight line.
Yes then i went to the chiropractor they didn't extremely found out yeah i'm at that was out of.
Play so then everything and i've been seeing a chiropractor like.
Yeah i think it start up like once a week and and then it was like once every few weeks now smh every once every few months.
It has totally helped me with my moving to make sure that you and my workout that i am able to have a full range of movement and that it even wanna go to work i'll let down the gas for something like.

[22:57] I really just is that i consider taller my question is good so i definitely like deathly the significant of a contract in my life is in great.

[23:09] What is this link urging hearing obviously being a chiropractor i can't advocate enough for just the importance of having a well adjusted.
Central nervous system so you mention you know getting those just maintenance wellness care,
you know once every couple months or something like that you're going to experience no benefits and value from that long term better just gonna be so impactful doing that preventive type,
care is really essential for not only people recovering from,
nonalcoholic fatty liver disease but for anyone really just trying to elevate their own health or either family wellness now,
would you say me there there was like a specific turning point where you decided you know hey i wanna get and health coaching i want to become a certified health coach,
maybe tell us what that point was and then what you kinda went through to achieve that certification okay so after i lost the city of house.
In other my five year journey.
And you know it seem like i had a lot of great things going in my life and i have a husband who loved me.
I had the time i had only one dog not having children quite yet that we were always on the horizon and there is a party that was making a lot like.
I went through all this and if you like it needs to come to fruition somehow in that you know at.
Like my experience could be used to help others and so i discovered the institute for integrative nutrition because i got my health coaching certification.

[24:41] And i'm.
Yeah i was a one year program it was really great hot you and it is not there either tight you coaching even tell you some business practices.
So the when your program and.
And yeah after i do there happen to be that i got pregnant with my daughter during the program and give birth to her since the program so they all got really well so yeah that's not abc have certification,
it's about holistic health coaching edition i also have a certification in personal training on the national academy of sports medicine.

[25:21] Okay fantastic yeah so do you you don't combine sort of health coaching in your incorporate some of that personal training recommendations in there as well idea,
especially since i feel like exercise and nutrition go together a lot and i really felt like i needed to really hone in on my knowledge for exercise because.
I feel like there's so integrated nutrition they i i felt like i could and.
I can be of help cuz i didn't have that component of the lot how could you that don't actually graces fla for me what i need to go with.
Helping my clients i needed to have that exercise knowledge to.

[25:59] So you have this unique perspective you have not only the experiences of you know a chronic health condition that you've recovered from that and you also.
Pair that with you now your unique perspective your level of training your certification that you can then provide to people who might be going through something similar,
my question for me is what is coaching with you look like to i have to be in california do i have to be in your area or can i work with you remotely if i live here in michigan how does that work.
I am so i am like it is completely on line.
So yeah we can totally could you add me looks like skype sessions every week.
It looks like a email support and it looks like just that i'm basically there with you but virtually,
fantastic so basically take me through the process essentially is there like an initial assessment and are we making food and nutritional recommendations are you essentially just,
making recommendations and the and the sense of not clean your again it or you specifically saying okay i want to go to the store.
And i want to buy this this and this like getting that detailed or was that look like so many part of my health coaching program it it advocate and eventuality where,
one man is another man's ways and so i can use after started to kinda cheap that would make my day.

[27:25] Everyone is different everyone is at a different level and everyone had like the dietary requirements so sometimes when it's someone who.

[27:34] You may not never cut themselves and i have to say hey so i need you to look at these stores in your area.
I need you to look at to see if they have any of these ingredients for this recipe i want you to try.
I'm trying to just make it be pretty easy like baby status i type like.

[27:59] Try it says whether tried ss interest variances and tried to just.
Make it as easy as possible that for them like in a make very very small that buried in very small adjust.
I typically like to look at what baby in the last few days just to kinda get so i get a sense of like you know where the printing a body.
And just like just can't make it more like a conversation when i first meet them just cuz i me people are more than just meal plans.
And sometime sneezing italian they say things that they don't realize they're feeling so i just tried evaluate who they are the person.
Fantastic i love that personalized approach that you just describe their you mention things like bio individuality baby steps you know those are just such key.
Critical components in my opinion for any kind of successful in changes whether that be to your lifestyle or your died your nutrition so i,
i can't say enough about we know what amy is able to do as a certified health coach so me the next thing i have for you is basically are there any practical applications are there any self care techniques maybe like your top one or three things that people could start doing right now,
as a result of listening to the episode here so one thing i really love to do every day i stretch before going to bed.

[29:33] At that like twenty min i take twenty minutes before i go to that i can i feel like i actually sleep better.
Belly so i recommend if you can try to stretch like ten to twenty mins for you that i got my it doesn't have to go and doesn't have to be anything agendas could do i get dizzy just simple like.
Hamstring like instructions this something where you are just loose enough to just fall right.
When you get to bed and so that's once had another ten is.
An easy way to cut out excess sugars calories in calories adjusted not drink soda anymore remember that my husband.
Hey when i was at my heaviest he he wanted to challenge yourself so he decided to not drinking soda as i didn't have and i was so amazed that like.
As abel is a couple pounds no problem just by doing that once a little change.
And so yeah just trying to me and even then like i understand soda addiction and i understand like sometimes i do crave the carbonation.
So i totally get it so it is what the things were.
You know you have to transition is difficult going cold turkey that's totally fine you can either drink less soda and drink more water or drink.
Warm water and you can like maybe try drinking less and then and try.
Carbonated are mineral water in addition got something that will help you ease into it i understand how how much does eviction can take a hold of you that you need to take baby steps steps of better me better drink.

[31:14] Like one cup of water and two sodas a day rather than no water at all.
So the advocate like you know whatever babysitting you take do it cuz i'm not here to hard on you if.
If you can't go cold turkey because i couldn't go cold turkey right side when i don't expect that of my clients.
Right and i think that makes you a good a good coach because you know any good coach in my opinion is going to be someone that you know practices what they preach now so if i'm gonna tell someone you know to do some at home exercises to help with the lower back pain.
You know in collaboration with their chiropractic adjustments.
I'm definitely gonna make sure that i'm doing the same exercises just for maintenance and good spinal care me mention stretching before bed i love doing that myself in just a kind of release some of those fossil adhesions.
You know just from our sedentary lifestyles and i'm even if you are active now after driving around use your still sitting in your car that's not a good way to.
You know i really move around in your car so your still getting a little bit of those restrictions just from the setting that you essentially have to do.
So i love the way you meant through and the hydration component in there as well you know getting rid of the soda getting rid of the excess sugars,
and i'm like you said baby stepping off that not trying to go cold turkey do me do you have any other resources that you would like to quit our listeners with.
To elevate their family once i know you have a couple on your website but is there anything that really stands out and in your experiences that may be help to you.

[32:48] So for me i'm member.
Use an on-line digital to kinda like a very and i really need amp up my my weight loss to so i can see what i was.
In what i was eating and i know its scary i didn't say do not do it for the first three three of the five years i lost weight on.
Actually yes i lost over three tablet human internally my food.
But eventually got to play it was okay now i just need to get down to writing it all down so i think that's an app.
Or an online site like i would actually like right down what you eating so that way you know like it is right in your face.
To the very easy just be like you know it's.
It is about a serving of like well you know i guess what ever meeting with the two serving of it is every little tweet like that.
And and also if you just.

[33:47] If you need to find a health coaching area there is a directory to my health coach info about as stupid integrated nutrition did you have directly to them.
Is defined how could you and you can also google a health coach.
And no you area and see if anyone can reach out to you and i liked it so i might business.
I'm totally available perfect yeah just gonna ask you know what's a summons listening hear the families are listening and the resonating with your message working people find more about you.

[34:22] So i said my piece is called the vitality geek and i am a guy for life i love i love anything just leave it as i five that's my think you are the life and loving my business so.
So you can find more about me at www dot vitality he dot com.

[34:41] And you are you can email me at amy dot nancy at the vitality dot com and also on twitter so that at the vitality.
And remember will have a dedicated web page with all the channels three mention here at michigan family won't stop com also you can expand the show notes on your mobile device and you can take advantage of those clickable links right now.
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Oh thank you this is really fine thank you so much,
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Transcript: MFW 025 | How Acupuncture Elevates Your Health & Wellness Lifestyle

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She is the founder of life in balance acupuncture in oregon where she's been treating patients since two thousand three in addition to her clinical practice brody shares her expertise to help women to take care of themselves,
with innovative learn from anywhere courses workshops and retreats on stress management the body mind connection and chinese medicine.

[2:34] She's also a traitor and host of a healthy curiosity the podcast that explores what it takes to be well in a busy world,
okay family so brody has a fantastic message a wonderful passionate i really wanted to bring to you on the machine down in one spot so i'm very excited to welcome her.
So without any further delay let's jump in today's interview.

[2:55] Welcome family's the interview portion of today's podcast my guest on the show today is brody wells protein when the podcast so great to have.

[3:03] What's up here in nobody really is fantastic the way technology can connect and engage people today and now,
and just getting in touch with you actually through a mutual facebook community i'm really amazed ultimately grateful because here's the thing.

[3:20] Because of all this now the enough to view community can benefit from your experiences and unique perspective were previously.
That may not have been possible so i wanna thank you again for being on the show today and absolutely love spreading the word about twenty minutes and.

[3:36] So very just hold our listeners a little bit about you as the professional before we get into today's content can you tell us more about you as the person and what does family look like for you well see me as a person as i am a,
highly driven highly motivated practitioner really always concerned with learning more of what i can to help my patients and,
i also really concerned about walking my talk around balance and health so a yeah i meditated to yogurt she gone go hiking,
play music actually with my husband in a band called the hugs and the hottie has just a live,
i about let's say four years ago i married a widower so i suddenly had instead kids hoover sure that plane.
Twelve at eight you are now seventeen thirteen and so i am a full time step mom as well as.

[4:37] Practicing in my clinic as well as developing work from home programs for people and so yeah i to have a very full life for which i'm very grateful.
That's awesome oh first of all congratulations on your family do you have any insights or know anything about the great lakes are lighthouses or anything michigan.

[4:58] Well the two things that i know that michigan one is that one of my closest friends from childhood went to the university of michigan and love that,
so i say i have a positive association there and that a good friend of mine from acupuncture school,
i was went out there starts practice before there were any laws around acupuncture so he was kind of in like the wild west of of practicing kind of and a legal state where i,
we now and so and just kind of that but that sounds.
A little perilous and risky but i understand that you now have license or in place of the skins.
Alright pretty well let's actually jumping to some content for today so you are a license acupuncturist out on the pacific northwest out there so explain to the michigan family wellness listeners exactly what,
is acupuncture will acupuncture is a,
that's a three thousand plus year history of it basically it's,
it's a complete system of medicine and acupuncture being one branch of chinese medicine and the practice of acupuncture is about capitalizing the body to heal itself,
and we do that by making suggestions to it and the suggestions come in the form of stimulating points on the body we,
he's hair thin filaments that i don't even like to call needles because most people think about needles that's hypodermic certainly not the,
getting blood drawn or shots and and i'm sure needles are actually so small about forty of them can fit inside hypodermic so it's a very different kind of experience and so were using these little for.

[6:36] Filaments to tap into the bodies intelligence that electromagnetic currents that exists that runs throughout,
the entire system of the body and we use these points on the surface to affect all the different systems of the body so we can actually affect things lake digestion and sleep infertility and things that have absolutely nothing to do with,
physical pain because the the internal organs of the body have these,
i kind of like he's on a keyboard that you can you can press control alt delete and get a different result and if you press controls the engine of that,
the commune or or t as in you're a musician you might appreciate the musical analogy of different cord causing a kind of a residence in the body and,
and so we combined points are different ways to send a particular message about what it's gonna take to create balance in the whole person.

[7:29] Wow so i'm actually quite impress i've never heard it described like that before and i consider myself someone that's coming in the.
Alternative healing arena for a little while now so i'm sure that are listener shift is gonna appreciate that so you're actually saying just kinda summarize.
Now that we know what acupuncture is your saying there's actually benefits and val.
You know i will i physically feel different.

[7:59] When i walk out of your office compared to when i walk in and like mentioned i just can't mention couple his health condition so you're saying you know by putting these.

[8:08] I know that their called needles in your eye and walk on the house but for the sake of the.
I am forever the marks in for the sake of the year gonna put needles in the scan and your saying that's actually going to affect my health is everything.
That's precisely what i'm saying tho in chinese medicine we have if you look at the national institute of health and the world health organization without.

[8:32] Dozens of different conditions that acupuncture is considered to be effective in treating and so and those conditions range not only from things like migraine headaches and lower back pain to,
i want the list number is that the things that i treat my practice have a lot to do with anxiety and depression,
they just it concerns insomnia infertility as i mentioned high blood pressure in of a,
various me we can help with everything from quitting smoking to weight loss to and if there's essentially that when you're talking to the body,
you're stimulating your first thoughts profoundly anti inflammatory as an effect on all sorts of neurotransmitters including our,
set of natural endorphins and our feel good chemicals so it can ship that's pretty much immediately from like at stressed tense,
kind of fight or flight state into a pear sympathetic or resting repair mode most people leave the office and kind of they be good at most able to sleep on the tables profoundly relaxing and they leave in the state but i refer to as acura and,
which can be really just people get is visions and insights on the table or just come off the table feeling like that had the best nap of their lives and,
and if so definitely does something to town so if the nervous system and as you as you know,
most of the conditions that we three are made worse by stress and so it's the kind of thing where just like it just has a part of the picture not only do i,
teach people how to how to work with their breath and how to work with dock you points to gonna down shift.

[10:05] And and getting slow there world down but that the actual experience of acupuncture is really profoundly relaxing and that you know i'll let times like,
if you have a chronic issue you receive had with eve had shoulder pain for five years it's like your first acupuncture visit you might feel,
but you might get some pain relief out of that first visit but you also might not often takes a handful of visits for things are kind of wrapped up in the body certainly learning to speak a language and no car factors of similar sort of.
There's like a tipping point where it where there's were suddenly people are like oh yeah this is really different than the body that i'm used to and says that that take the apple that's really early stick around that simply a process but,
it depending on the severity and the generation and state you know when a host of other factors people often do you feel that the main complaint.

[10:56] Changes in in just a visit or a handful.
Right right and i'm just along with that has to pay you back in every case is different so you know people are in different levels of health so.

[11:08] You know someone might be able to respond really quickly to your treatments are to acupuncture when someone else like you said it might take a few sessions are also like that.
It's also not in us or not uncommon to have yeah so better for like a day or two but then it came back when that's that actually means.
That were on to something and you need to hang in there so i don't actually you know responsible plan of care for chinese medicine is a handful of the,
that's and then your practitioner will be able to evaluate just kind of like i almost done are you just getting going kind of late on a case by case basis but usually,
apple is enough to know whether your particular condition is the kind of thing that acupuncture can help with cuz clearly we can't like we attach a severed tendon or something not that there's plenty that,
that we we can catalyzer in terms of helping the body to,
to relax to heal to recover from a surgery or trauma that kinda thing or even prevented of la if you're coming after getting have chronic colds and flus are chronic in a credit card anything like that you might not even necessarily,
it consider a big problem you have a dinner for three times a week it's not a big deal are area get you know like i just live with so yeah every month i have terrible.
You know that's the craft like yeah that's not normal that's that is that have to live with it just because its fan,
it's what your use to doesn't mean that that's that that's something that you have to settle for an so alot of times.
In texas we think about treating the branch as well as the remote so that if if we have.

[12:41] If that is an imbalance in the body that i can give rise to a bunch of different branches that we would consider the sentence and so it may be that your difficulty falling asleep at night and your poor memory and,
weak digestion and gas including all have to do with the same and balance that we retreat,
and we will call that squeegee deficiency yeah so i got a killer kind of energy in the body that needs nourishment or a particular kind of energy that needs that we need to temp down to regulate and so it's this idea that,
get me on is absurd about a concept,
that that is central to chinese medicine that your listeners might be familiar with them turns of that the ubiquitous young symbol innocently that's the cool of chinese medicine mr sir balance to the body and each system so like,
we can think about,
like the spleen and stomach are the heart and small tests and the little cold water these yen yang pairs of organs that work together to accomplish if it,
the under consist yeah like that but different organs are all doing,
the same thing in the body early concert each have their role to play but it's it's not like one or get it scattered around that has a hole sweet of symptoms that can be responsible for influencing,
no not to go off on too much of a tangent but you know there's acupuncture there's dry needle laying in hypodermic yeah just think,
give us you know thirties like alligator differences and like what's what makes one the other and what makes one different from the other.
Well i'm going to,
reveal bias here but try kneeling in my opinion is the practice of acupuncture by people like physical therapists chiropractors he don't wanna actually get license to do acupuncture not okay i feel it is the kind of thing where like.

[14:24] Yeah chinese in chinese medicine we have twenty nine we have kind of their traditional massage and traditional sort of,
manipulation that i'm not gonna go cracking someone's neck and call it twenty right now talking about this app to jail that's tire.

[14:40] To try kneeling is essentially the insertion of needles to have a therapeutic purpose that is done that the claim is made that this is,
this is done it with the system that's totally different from chinese medicine and yet we look at what's being taught of the seminars that the points that are used are are.
Most of the line right up with traditional chinese medicine identify tacky points and so sorry i considered trying healing to the,
at the most responsible thing in the world and and the idea that claiming that you just invented it can i ten years ago is is really tearing at the service to people who really.

[15:18] And to be a to be an acupuncturist near for your or you have three thousand our master's degree program and that but that's that's kind of the standard for a license or in most states and so if you know if there's.
There's a big difference between somebody not versus someone who's may be taking a weekend workshop and you know like maybe has a medical background,
and knows enough about me to maybe not like hit like an artery or something but and clearly there's an art to it and it's not,
jamming a piece of metal in somebody's body serve function no longer some young ass and it's like,
the practice of acupuncture is is considered quite safe when it's done by a trained professional and i don't consider,
try dealing to necessarily meet that threshold so is it a try dealing yeah to serve buyer be ware and make sure it,
make sure that your personal space trade but but i think that i think that the public is best served when we all do our best at,
and so in about,
i need someone here it's a licensed acupuncturist which in some states were doctors of oriental medicine and other shit for acupuncture physicians it just depends on on the state title but often licensed acupuncturist is the title and,
and for people wanting to.
To find someone near them i recommend going to the the national certification so center for acupuncture and oriental medicine which is and see.

[16:44] Perfect type in your zip code and you'll find people who work well.

[16:48] Awesome thanks so much very for all that i was gonna get to the gets all those questions a little bit later on after the covers more content i just so just to be sure like.

[16:59] What you're saying is you actually have a license you've actually passport exams you've got into a professional four year collegiate degree.
It's not as if you just went to a weekend seminar and.
You know slot of certification on your back and now you put needles in people's skin so we're saying is like this is a legitimate thing.
And i hope people can resonate with your message and what your saying it so you actually know what you're talking about and you use this technique.
For specific therapeutic effects i talk a lot of talk about this a lot of my podcast in with my patients these modalities these therapies these techniques they're very powerful signals for healing.

[17:40] Yep the same time if done incorrectly with you to the wrong intend to at the wrong level at the wrong time you mention like specific points you know at the wrong point.
You can actually hurt someone and also in sj and acupuncture in of think that's what one of things i love about chinese medicine is that there so much that we can be doing our own,
eight you know like sticking needles and ourselves not one of those things that we can certainly that that was interesting i think is that,
that when we stimulate appoints you can do that with self massage you can do it in writing your skin with essential oil you can do it by tapping you can in like there,
there's lots of different ways of talking to the body is not necessarily gonna be the same as acupuncture and an especially because it were you know essentially chinese medicine,
it is is a whole system that that is because incredibly deep and it and has just yet thousands of years of,
medical philosophy and it said it is its systems within systems answer obviously the more someone understands.
Could how it all fits together the more powerful the results can be but that shouldn't stop someone from from learning a few ak you points that could be super helpful for daily life you know i try vacations all the time you know like your the point for headaches and here's right or you know,
that to help the stress and so it's the kind of thing where like there's definitely safeways applying the medicine to ourselves and see that i think that's,
stop started feeling so.
So what is the meridian you know years back when i was in chiropractic college i had to the average a-section laboratories and when i metaphorically speaking opened up the hood.

[19:16] Yeah on the human body i don't necessarily see a bunch of.
Lines crossing the elbow are going up and down the spine area around you know these charts that i've seen or that people magazine for,
so explain them for a listener shift is it like there is lines and everyone's body that or you know tell us what that's like.
Sure well so this will be back up a little bit and steps so because basically it.
It one of the central lotions and chinese medicine is that the whole body is is this field of energy which is something that,
it is born out inside so we can measure that there's a field of energy that projects past the human form six to twelve inches and that,
and if we think about if we shifter paradigm from kind of the new tony in physics model of like were a bunch of mechanistic parts dancing around the unit like,
said reset over to the the quads them or is dying in physics to mention or mainly empty space with this tiny little that's a matter,
you know if we got identifiers with with ourselves as kind of the energy of who we are play,
actually work were field of energy with some with some bass the energy is gonna be the vast majority of the,
the acupuncture meridian hs are kind of like the main channel's of how energy primarily circulates through the body as a,
in chinese medicine and just like if you cut open a phone line he wouldn't see the electricity running through it you know or like and in the cadaver lab,
you know what like,
one of the first things that happens as you cut a way to fast rate your way that that superficial connective tissue and that's usually where the marines are such run it's actually in the fashion no i think it's actually really exciting that research that's currently being done it's a kind of a.

[21:01] Just how much have fascia is just this and nurture issue but it allows for communication in on a cellular level.

[21:09] The nervous system of the brain in a kind of all this that we stay to not know about it as that so so it's kind of like yeah that and any time like we didn't use to thing,
the cranial bones move because all of that you know it and now we know that there's a such thing as the crib musical rhythm which is created by the movement of cerebral spinal fluid within that are within that,
you know level of the spine and that and that it's actually really vital so that that's flowing well in order for also.
To the body to feel relax unbalanced and so similarly with chinese medicine if you were cut into a cadaver you would not see the radiant because there's no life you know like that that like there is no led by electricity,
yeah that's the kind of thing where like in the living body they're absolutely are ways that that,
energy moves around that can be regulated and it's the thin so that,
the there are hundreds of points and those points are correct are connected to one another on these on these rivers of energy are these lines are the electrical lines that we think of as the radiant and so.

[22:14] So we can use physically appoints where the body's energy can be accessed and energy travels on the,
on the meridian to the internal organs which is one of the reasons why we can do things like regulates stomach acid using stomach thirty six which is on the lower leg that point will either increase or decrease stomach acid depending on what the person needs because the stomach channel,
goes to the subject so it's kinda like it what highway you gonna take in order to get to the organ system that you want to.

[22:42] Fantastic so let me describe framework for you here and i think my patients will appreciate this as well as the people listening the family system will appreciate this as well,
a patient comes to me because their back hurts obviously being a chiropractor their back hurts you know they come to me,
after i performed a thorough health history i also find out that this person has been diagnosed with high blood pressure okay,
and they also have a history of chronic kidney related disease case i'm trying to set up the context for this acupuncture connection about this right here,
so we all know that the kidneys through in manchester understanding of physiology the kidneys actually helped regulate blood pressure okay.
So naturally being a doctor and having a blood pressure cuff i pull up my blood pressure cuff and actually take this person's blood pressure reading okay so it was high you know it's stock was in the one sixties okay,
so if you look at the kidney meridian if you pull out your acupuncture charter if you've.
Ever looked at an acupuncture meridian chart you know you'll find that there's actually a kidney.
Meridian and it goes all the way from the bottom of the foot to basically the heads of the clavicles okay.

[23:54] What i do is actually i start evaluating this patients foot okay the actual joints in the foot because what happens is.
These marines they cross joint lines and while as a chiropractor i'm not going to put a needle in someone's skin but i am.
License and is within my scope to actually evaluate the range of motion the joint restriction of.
You know everything from the spine all the way down to the extra nice i'm checking out this guys foot and what i'm finding is that.
There's major joint restriction actually in the longitudinal archer actually where the new vic killer bond is.

[24:33] When i looked at the kidney meridian i saw that kinda crossed right on that one ge to know large there but i do next is actually.

[24:41] No cuz his chief complaint is lower back pain so he's like doc what are you doing with my foot on coming to you from my back you know what's what's going on here,
so then i actually start testing using a technique called applied kinesiology and muscle testing.

[24:57] And i actually my patients are there with this as well so i'm actually challenging the so as muscle or his hip flasks are and i'm finding that this guy.
Cannot hold his hip fracture he has the weakest effects are his so as is just completely.
What i would describe as neurologic lee inhibit okay and so just what muscle relates to the kidney or onion.
And it's the so so i hope this is strange all kinda makes sense here.
But when i want to describe is after i adjusted those patients for okay so i corrected the dropped new vic alert on.
Alright that reestablish the flow or the ci are the pron of the kidney meridian.
Which then restored strength to his so as muscle which took away his lower back pain so that was his immediate experience he was like.

[25:50] Doc you just adjust my foot that helps my back and now it's me that was amazing that was huge and then you know we did next.
We actually read took that blood pressure reading and we found that this is stalin could come down to within normal range.
Okay all because the murder in the kidney meridian was this function or imbalances you describe.

[26:13] Yeah i think that's it that's an awesome example,
can i can i add on to it the error so couple things strike me not description and and one is that the kind of many paths to the same point thing is is really you know that,
yeah a lot of times one of the one of the points on the kidney meridian near than of a killer bone is gonna be kidney to and that's a different points on the kidney meridian like what you what you,
put the point that you choose have different jobs and so in chinese medicine its its like yes there's meridien therapy which is kind of using points on the same channel to affect a different part of the body that's on the channel which is what you're describing your example here using the ankle two of.
It's in the back and and that it's exactly the blood pressure dropped.
The chinese medicine the kidney system is part of what we call the water elements and so it is in charge of like it so it rules,
basically the lower body rolls the lower back it rules the bones and joints in general it's in our shared from anyone dealing with arthritis in it like,
we will definitely with a kidney on can you connect with the emotion of fear kidneys that the main job of water,
one of the jobs that the water elements regulate the fire element which is where the heart let's in so basically it's giving ya at base state if there's two week in the water element that,
then the fire can go out of control and you get something like it blood pressure and so it my guess is that by manipulate.
What working with kidney to and you know either but with adjusting at or is it just gonna be killer boehner putting a needle at a kidney to that were sending a message to the body of like hey let's take this access heats that let's.

[27:54] Let's set it like clearly you call and see heat in chinese medicine so that the blood pressure goes down and also so that everything that it that the kidney pretty and.
Connect with including so as can can come back.

[28:08] Balance and so it's like yes there is this meridian therapy idea but there's also this five element idea of kind of how how energy moves,
inside internally among the different organ systems and how we use how everything's all connected and so.

[28:24] Kidney is al traffic madison has identified the kidneys as playing a major role in blood pressure regulation and it chinese medicine yet won't hold that.
Is exactly the logic there to and so in addition to kidney points i might also choose some points that take down the blood pressure in periodically or that clear he from the heart,
a problem like based on the assessment will that we use in chinese medicine which include taking the pulse of the radio artery at three different positions at,
but look at the person ton and by asking a ton of questions that we affectionately refer to as the ten thousand questions.

[28:58] Awesome very well it's exactly this kind of alternative thinking but,
at the same time based in science this functional approach and including your acupuncture practice as well that.
Can be so valuable and provide so much significance for so many people and honestly i'm sure you i'm sure you see this in the pacific northwest as well,
exactly save you thousands of dollars in needless medical and emergency care we still need all that don't misunderstand saying that i can save you know tons of.
Resources on that emergency care when you can just.
You know have this preventive this alternative approach to your health and wellness lifestyle and honestly two gonna can save you from the detrimental side effects from many of the medications you know it's like you.
You go you get a medication for some time our chief complaint and then you have the side effects of that medication which then you need more medications for cell.
I'm just really appreciating the value and kind of the again that different mindset that different kind of alternate thinking.
That i think people are really benefiting from in terms of acupuncture.
Maria agnes which brings me a traditional chinese medicine so i know that in our preach at you were describing how you know there's acupuncture there's chi's gone,
and it seems like in correct me if i'm wrong is traditional chinese medicine or tc and is that kind of the major umbrella or,
the major tree and then there's all these different branches that include acupuncture and she gone is that how it works yet so it's chinese medicine and.

[30:33] Would be the umbrella term traditional chinese medicine is actually the name of one particular branch within the the bigger umbrella of chinese okay to tc m was codify by bough it it it's,
two eight hundred communist china to in order to count of like regulate the,
act as of acupuncture and make it easier to teach to the masses and so kind of like it is one particular way we're like okay what you know there's,
if somebody comes in with a headache okay these are the ten different kinds of headaches that were gonna recognizing the systems and for these for the use it i use these points for this kind of headache it depending on on the differential diagnosis that is also that's but that's sort of like that's one way for,
practicing chinese medicine there's also classical chinese medicine and there's certain that there's mean obviously.
The chinese medicine has been around for three thousand years it has just been in china there's ten different systems that have evolved in japan and vietnam and you know kind of all throughout asia and then it said before spreading to the west it within the past.
Gonna be hundred years ago i think but in any case chinese medicine in general is is,
a complete system of healthcare with its own system of diagnostics and treatment acupuncture is one branch of our our most hours i think or second most important branches gonna be herbal medicine so it just says like whatever we identify as a,
primary and balance the body we could it generally speaking for for pain issues acupuncturist gonna be the probably the most effective tool but for most of our internal medicine imbalances like basically anything else that you would see a position for.

[32:06] Set that.

[32:09] Herbal medicine could be the most powerful intervention and so we we look at it again what's out of balance the body what kind of energy need strengthening what kind of energy needs dispersing what's going on with the ecosystem that is this person and then,
we would have prescribed formula as usually a mixture of different herbs so instead of like kind of in the west where were used to saying like oh if you have sleep problems take.
Yeah larry and ruth or if you have when we community take back in a shack that in chinese medicine it's more like instead of like giving something like a bag of flour to back of baking soda bag of sugar it's more like here have this cake mix in it like your hair that's like synergistic by.
Or a cat are just going to do a particular job in the body of regulating it so it's herbal medicine is another important ratched other branches include diet,
obviously that's a major point of any kind of medicine but my existence considered a branch in and of itself in chinese medicine so instead of how that might different.

[33:04] That might differ from the way that we think about in west is like reset thinking about carbs protein fat vitamins and minerals and a chinese medicine we will get.
Things like the temperature and the taste of it so kind of is this warming or cooling,
red and white and the edge of each case has a particular function in the body so it's somebody's having difficulty losing weight or they're terrible digestion,
i forgot to look at the energetic sympathy to thirty eating and the balance of case and also eat food is considered medicine for a particular system of the body right we know that but yeah,
what's your eta based on the kind of trance that that go.

[33:43] Towards making a particular system healthy we have that same notion in chinese medicine so there's a lot to the dietary and it's a lot more about the energetic seafood,
it is an is this anyway can be and you stand on,
how we think about what we're putting into our bodies and other branches gonna be exercise and that's different than kind of what we think of as like pumping iron are going for runny nose like yes that's exercise but in chinese medicine exercise.
Means basically breathing and moving and breathing life into the body through practices like she gone are the the basically as it was probably more familiar to most people it's a little bit more,
popular and famous that she gone just needs energy exercise or have a way of cultivating and building your own internal energy and it sort of like a moving meditation.
In our kind of like dallas yoga center people are familiar with,
with yoga that basically you're your breathing your combine your breast your intention of posture and she gone does the same thing except that so it's a bit less linear and a little more slowly and for a lot of people much more accessible because it serves,
it's pretty accessible to all bodies and can be can be modified to my dad so such icon i love at because it sort of.
Like a moving meditation or gentle exercise all-in-one and so it's one of the reasons that i really feel like that's it,
a particularly useful branch of the medicine that people can can take on as a self care practice and so and some people even include meditation as a branch of chinese medicine as well.

[35:16] Which side she be a branch or is that in the media kind of a subset of cheat on okay so it's the gun means energy exercise type she is basically like,
you can cultivate energy for the purpose of self healing you can cultivate as a spiritual practice or we can cultivate that kind of as a martial art and how he is kinda likes martial arts in slow-motion units that had obviously had health benefits but the it it's,
it's sort of like yeah it's it's gonna be a branch on that she got three,
cancer going back to what you were saying earlier with just helping people balance their sympathetic and their para sympathetic i find that my patience to actually practice type she.
You know because you're moving so slowly it not only slows down the moments of your joints in your muscles but also.

[36:02] Benefits you advise slowing down your mind and what you were saying earlier you know really trying to balance that para sympathetic nervous system.
Without sympathetic nervous system so i appreciate your clarification there with the you know that the tree of chinese medicine and how there are all these different branches you know.
Tc amber the traditional chinese medicine being a branch in of itself i find that fascinating so yeah it's definitely no in and it's like i don't necessarily take offense like people can people can fit a practice to see him but it's i also.
Very much recognize that that it's like that in of itself is it isn't,
thousands of years of what came before it and like it's and in some senses like at what was lost and insert of like china's attempt to be appealing to kind of like the evidence based you know our pathak.
That is an establishment of the west is that what was lost was this idea of the body mind spirit connection which i think is one of chinese medicines real strengths it out like men that the idea that,
our thoughts affect our physiology and everything from that how we just or food to the every state of the nervous system is it that every,
it is represented by stay in the union system hand and every like the emotions and thoughts have an effect on,
on virtually every system of the body so,
and the fact that in chinese medicine each organ system correlate with emotion and there's a particular to mention of our.

[37:30] Of our consciousness to for example the spleen is connected with our ability to focus our attention shredder liver is connected with or imagination,
yeah like and not digestive someone's feeling blocked or stock or like there another angry old times sake what we need to move the liver chicken her that you are the liver color is getting too hot and that absolutely we could the,
the energetic civil what what is the weather the chemicals that may be heating up the weather in person needs to be to a glass of an advisor others is everything that could have an effect on that there are certainly points there you know as well or taking you out to the looking at.
At being able to to think about that really.

[38:09] Getting a handle on how we feel and how we think has a huge effect on on our physiology mention the screen and i know that you know you talked about like focusing and i'm trying to do so multitask there's are who i have ec with like.
And if you caught a spleen deficiency or imbalance but i'm sure you see a lot of that especially with are you know our mobile devices you know having.
Ten million apps open at once you know trying just do everything while driving you know it seems like we're just sir.
We're just burning where nervous system and or ch are spleen she that way so.

[38:45] Oh awesome now brody and know that we've mention things kinda throughout the interview today but let's talk practical applications do you have like top top three or top two are just a few self care techniques that you'd recommend for the listeners.

[38:59] What won first,
things that i recommend to my patients is to slow down there world by slowing down or breath in for like is as you're saying yes we live in a world where we're,
our attention is being pulled in a million different directions and so one of the most important things i see for self care is is for people to have a relationship for their it rather at least checking in with their breath such as people.

[39:24] Yeah i usually time each day eat food,
eric amend the people said a little gentle timer on their phone and have a few times a day where they come back to their breath and actually on my website i have a free breathing meditation that walks you through kinda just how to do that and to to this kind of get,
a handle on being able to use your breath as an assessment tool for what's going on in your body so that's absolutely like the first thing because,
because but we live in it and in chinese medicine terms we live in a young evicted world's racer if he on is like the active and moving in protective and hot kind of energy it's like we've got way too much of that as a culture and the idea the,
what's that is actually shopping in tn dropping into a state of relaxation and rest in peace and slowness and that got.
Actually enable us to be more productive in an rocker mentioned in the world but that and unless we are,
list for giving time to things like i don't know sleep timer it out time alone is another pic when i work with a lot of women who over working over served and so that's as i actually set my second.
Dig encouragement in terms of self care is looking at the your,
does your schedule match your priorities in our really doing that values check and children went.
And and because a lot of people in our its like if you ask them what's important to them it's it's not necessarily think it's,
that use and a lot of people as women especially air conditioned to take care of everyone else's needs before themselves and the idea of.

[40:55] Taking time to either make themselves a healthy food or get the exercise of they want or whatever its like its that somehow feel selfish and so so number two is gonna be self care is not selfish and actually going,
get you ordering your yeah ordering your body slowing down,
i'm having a body might practice these are the kinds of things that allow you to show up with love and presents for the people in your life for the people that use the one.

[41:20] And i know that i struggle with that myself and so i say that not with not from a place of i've got it all figured out but i,
but i just know it to be true time and time again that when i make time,
two that's it to feed my soul and since you know what fills me up and to connect in love and however that may be for someone weather that's taking a walk in nature whether that's prayer or meditation or in.
Good quality time with the friends they not like that that making sure that that happens just as much as the checking stuff off the to do list and and the hard work and now,
cleaning the bathroom awesome so what i'm hearing you say is you know having this connection back to breath no setting tires on your phone.
Throughout the day really means to get just connected back to that slow paris and pathetic breast.
Realizing that its in and not selfish to actually have self care i love the way you said that to.
Would there be any kind of points that you would recommend or are these just so medicine on so therapeutic that you really want someone to actually.
You know do a formal assessments and then actually recommends specific points for that specific case or if i have it is there anything i can do for my headaches and now yeah is all the,
i'm so like it's until like,
it's pacific conditions a little bit and and usually requires a deeper dive but missing my favorite points for stress for example there's a point in the center of,
face the justice mean the eyebrows cody and time and that's,
one of the points for just even just hopping lately or just pressing lightly with an index finger or resting a little stone there are no like art or even watching it with a little lavender essential oil to close to the eyes obviously but that you know i just.

[43:04] Just laying your hand on that point,
give the body a subtle reminder that you're that you can slow down that can be that could be really really simple way up another point that i really wanna visit the it is called shan bandits in the upper corner of the,
you're so kind of that little triangle in the upper part of the year.
Pressing on that point that's another wonderful calm the mind point so that those are just two that i might pick out out of,
you know doesn't that i could shoes but those aren't that typically typically ones that just sometimes it will just massaging that you're going are just that way finger tip pressure on the center of the forehead that those can often.
No just try it out see what that does for you because you might be able to feel that that has an immediate of.
If people are nervous about getting a treatment a lot of times i'll put an essential oil on that that your point and people to see just watched the tension just melt at a summons right so you but yeah i have a lot.
Self,
it's an ss more particular self care strategies based on chinese medicine on my website it pretty well stop calm and so people can see and i also a podcast that fit definitely,
there certainly resources for people who are interested in learning more specific points and specific of ways of aligning with the rhythms of nature that's the kind of thing that it or learning so he gone for that matter that's all the,
the kind of thing that i love helping people left and just to clarify to you now i'm all about self experimentation and and you know trying things on.

[44:38] You're around but i do want to be clear to you and correct me if i'm wrong what,
what you're not saying is to go grab you know you're sewing needle home after i listen to this and start putting in an order right in between your are your forehead right between your eyebrows they're or tapping that point you mentioned in your ear so you're not saying that correct it's a different kind of needle right,
i am saying that no one should be killing themselves let's let's just be really clear about that what i'm what i mean is is working with the points you know either with gentle pressure or its intention you know that,
start stimulating it with your with your hands or no or no i think with an oil so.
That's about as far i know it may sound silly that i bring it up you know but i just like to clarify for people cuz sometimes you know i work with nutrition in my practice and i'll give someone a supplement and they're like okay al i'll say take this two times a day or something that and,
obviously i am implying like i want you to know use a glass of water and swallow it.
You have it goes through your digestive track some people there like should i put this in my year like what do i do this like what do i do with this and i'm like okay,
this is exactly what i want you to do so i'm just like to clarify with yeah exactly so i appreciate that so bro you kinda got into it you kinda mentioned it,
so definitely you know i always like to ask about additional resources that you would recommend for people to elevate their family wellness and you already mentioned that you have this breathing at,
what's real or this breeding framework that people can access at your website will just go ahead and tell people where they can find more about you.

[46:13] I am pretty well set comes that's,
brody without it and well to the ch and that and under the learn from home to have those are for people who want like a deep dive to run virtually any page of my website you'll be invited to,
i'm,
to download your free breathing meditation i also have a little cheek on thing up there and i have the key that the blog archives has all kinds of information about how to eat like that with the seasons and different i keep,
i've got several articles on huffington post about particular i key points for,
particular emotional conditions and has lists and check on some people can search for me there there's also like from my website and ss and my,
podcast in the new outcasts yes yeah it's called a healthy curiosity and it's you can subscribe for free on itunes and,
that is where people will find information from not only chinese medicine i mean i have experts within my field talking about the different.
Thinking of things like getting over needle phobia or whatever gas conditions that people might be faced with but also conversations with people who are trying to the well in a busy world of the strategies are working for them and not so it,
conversations with experts but also with the people who are experts by virtue of the fact that they've been that they've learned something that they have some wisdom to offer and so a lot of personal stories,
available there.

[47:35] Fantastic and remember families were gonna have a dedicated web page with all of the show notes that we've mentioned here at michigan family on the stock come.
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[47:53] Brody you're a life you're a mother you're an acupuncturist your this amazing health coach thank you so much for coming on the podcast you're a fellow podcast or was that.

[48:04] And i just want to thank you so much for coming on the podcast today well thank you kyle it.

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